From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: d paddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: emacs + donation Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:35:36 -0500 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515598781 7392 195.159.176.226 (10 Jan 2018 15:39:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: d paddy To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 10 16:39:36 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZITX-0001YL-DF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:39:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49236 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZIVX-0001DK-16 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:41:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58298) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZHTg-0002ZX-Lf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:35:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZHTf-00009b-7U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:35:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c]:41732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZHTe-00008E-Vs for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:35:39 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id h137so20083107lfe.8 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 06:35:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=M+kv9HJgfFTRGh2oUYlD1sv54mrBaE2C0U1zA7WtX14=; b=HxmNO7ISURIGwlU9/EZtn/sZN1RJ9rbZLCjWiElsru4NX5FkxtDdk9sI3gojBCT8f+ 1bZNQfmtP6YnIbORIJjChQ2mljOhAXfsWYdzurdOUoLKpCHEaxfFFpLLvjL5Mp5SwmUg Z4NFICBf/1OZs910MlsEuboWvhaMgt1yNP9dB4fztWwFyBREBFXVhkJ61V/9V1GsoF4j Nv2jEVwzMVwLP+Sks4WV0eVCoGlvZs1KD1LrIhJjCGkFwhDgJeZ49ESaocXd8QzAOzdW RcOyGEQRrdzvQ/p4dclmkMCBtjaTecf0jYEd2ph0RjgpqBbNXu3O6iGMrEmtkZ30ThiQ akZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=M+kv9HJgfFTRGh2oUYlD1sv54mrBaE2C0U1zA7WtX14=; b=fEpwgMqMAQDpxGAZR+jOHzIEAopR5Q62a5IVSTiWdtV03v7P9JOWwjnIyHUPB0psqc jj6qFaiEZggVyUhdLf4XAIjB7o34rrb6SM80fvKXvJRxrNeJjVPn26NzZk5k1qqL+gzK XOIiCkINw7weH6dtro+P9Nac6GvSOfgGSblmOR+kLI/XnpadajZsQrSseQIOnrLwoh9E beNonPydgXh3ehcWXJ7S6SoKk/Qk7cJCQY3QC6x9VlrQmQFqnUiGji3AI6hyRHSNtzkN GzdXgJsoCS5aiM0IFXFDSc8On4jYO8ApenWbvo/l4FKJFHcyV2tBvhucEbOi04Q8bvZI /TTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytfuTMGkzFubWo+FlbHTAVPzyOuBQgeIbtvRtoNZvZ3QOrNMUF32 xtk9KJaXzRg5zqJMxqcZPRbPWb3hWu7FSdqvV7ba+w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosv4HVnEXLbhciOg/AqH1G7pAWZYwCK27xusWgAKbl9KlFXTts+dy1qhAkX8u+7wmoIJ1Whdnq1Vc1drHW40Fc= X-Received: by 10.25.155.205 with SMTP id d196mr9561306lfe.31.1515594937273; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 06:35:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.25.168.200 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 06:35:36 -0800 (PST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:40:45 -0500 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115637 Archived-At: Greetings... I was initially pointed to info@fsf.org so as to get help with an emacs question and donate to fsf. A consequence of that interaction was my redirection to help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org... QUESTION: How do I stop emacs from changing what I type? EXAMPLE: I type eleven ascii characters into an empty buffer (in fundamantal mode) and then save the buffer to the file "example"; the hex values of those characters are character 1 : 31 character 2 : 32 character 3 : 33 character 4 : 0a character 5 : 20 character 6 : 20 character 7 : 20 character 8 : 0a character 9 : 34 character 10: 35 character 11: 36 Moreover those characters above were typed into the buffer by pressing the following eleven keys on the keyboard key 1 : 1 key 2 : 2 key 3 : 3 key 4 : enter key 5 : space key 6 : space key 7 : space key 8 : enter key 9 : 5 key 10: 6 key 11: 7 The word count utility reports only eight bytes in the file "example" -- even though I typed eleven -- and hexl-mode shows those bytes are byte 1 : 31 byte 2 : 32 byte 3 : 33 byte 4 : 0a byte 5 : 0a byte 6 : 34 byte 7 : 35 byte 8 : 36 Emacs evidently changes my input. How do I cajole emacs into reflecting exactly what I type? Many thanks. P.S. I am not looking for opinions about why I might/should want emacs to change what I type... I'm looking for the "get-off-my-lawn-mode" wherein emacs faithfully represents exactly what I type ;-)