From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: PJ Weisberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 21:01:41 -0700 Message-ID: References: <0b72021c-139f-4269-8e81-5b5ef97fb83d@googlegroups.com> <8761yu64e4.fsf@Servus.decebal.nl> <87r4higq45.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip2tyftv.fsf@yahoo.fr> <20130508155351.GA5399@hysteria.proulx.com> <87obclrrb9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <25153223-A058-4762-A1FC-7744472B958A@Web.DE> <2A25C277-7CBD-47DC-8954-67D0C2A87009@web.de> <5D59EB28-D184-4012-9AFE-0EC0A968A559@web.de> <8761ys6kcy.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368244924 824 80.91.229.3 (11 May 2013 04:02:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 04:02:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 11 06:02:02 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ub10S-0005cS-9H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 06:02:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47766 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ub10R-0001OZ-Q2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 00:01:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48487) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ub10E-0001OU-IR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 00:01:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ub10B-0007Gc-PO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 00:01:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c01::22b]:55406) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ub10B-0007GY-Ib for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 00:01:43 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f171.google.com with SMTP id b15so733892eae.30 for ; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:01:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=uy/9gHjyLySTsVgoLE3/u8DSEggleS8d2tWNd+dR7g4=; b=zH3HMULQQAp0HH0SKcZzUrm75CAkkkB+yiApyi+h7zVeCmFTV3Gmwe0HevI76tl0W/ vumzkeNbUfQ+5jAtPsfUJeCK5NEJRD9l6rD1WNa6AwQsJiKXfKnr0ZHK98VTSUk/ZWLt MfR/1rx8yxVAeRW6nLonPJHhsgxKxMZ4IPFscFovBsvoWlvXLDayK3lY44OnMZ8Z9k2o QZn4Xzj5Wif+s4Ive2BCzYeVMJAYvJXvUEw5PA4f+UMHxvY9H96LTmbOEkuE6pIVmhRw 01T7UWJhaLG8/rtP/864eG1G37QvKY9NRcZkLuGB4VQS8JmBXuSV84yxFhsBYza6cffL TraQ== X-Received: by 10.14.178.129 with SMTP id f1mr12109826eem.10.1368244902156; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.223.51.89 with HTTP; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.223.51.89 with HTTP; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:01:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4013:c01::22b X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90629 Archived-At: On May 9, 2013 2:09 PM, "Jai Dayal" wrote: > On May 9, 2013 2:06 PM, "Jay Belanger" wrote: > > > Jai Dayal writes: > > > > > And BTW, you said "visit", not edit. Visit does not strictly mean edit. > > > > From the Emacs manual: > > "Visiting" a file means reading its contents into an Emacs buffer so > > you can edit them. Emacs makes a new buffer for each file that you > > visit. > > > > > You are just as ambiguous as you are inaccurate. > > > > Technically true, since he was both unambiguous and accurate. > > He was not accurate because he stated this could not be done in Vim. Pish-posh! Can Vim "read[ a file's] contents into an Emacs buffer"? I think NOT. This thread should be retitled "Does anyone really use Vim?". I can't see any reason to support Vim on a modern Emacs-based system, and I purpose that everyone henceforth cease to put any effort into supporting it. :-)