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[the story: i want to notice replies to my emails and conversations in which i have participated. but i send emacs mailing list email to a tag/folder. i want the ones i am part of to go to my inbox or some other prominent location.] can it be done without requesting all respondents to include me in cc or to? that seems burdensome to them and brittle. alternatives sem to be by some header magic at the emacs mailing list server, or by filtering in my webmail. here is the thing: i note that my webmail puts a unicode >> in front of conversation that have posts directed to me and > in front of conversations that include me as part of them. this is /exactly/ the distinciton i want. i want all emacs mailng list email to go to my emacs folder / tag / [whatever it is in this webmail], /except/ all conversations with > or >>, which go to inbox. so, if gmail had an e.g. has:arrows search trick [idk if it does], then maybe i could construct a filter to go to the emacs tag that would look like [list:emacs -(has:arrows)] or something. i probably got that wrong due to cognitive issues. idk if it does have that feature in its search capability, but given that it has that feature /in the first place/ suggests to me that all the information it needs, it has. although maybe it has to look at all posts in the conversation to know? i do notice that if i search for mail like list:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org (to:me OR from:me), then that is a pretty good approximation of the conversations i want to notice. but the filter interface does not allow search expressions. On 11/26/22, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar wrote: > >>> i am subscribed to this list, but it is in a different >>> folder. even if i participate in a thread, including >>> starting one, it stays in that folder, so i frequently miss >>> replies to my posts. are there settings for these maiing >>> lists that will add headers like in-reply-to or references >>> or something so that those particular threads will show up >>> in my inbox? >> >> There are ways to do that however if a user doesn't >> correctly cc > > Okay, what's the correct CC then? > >> There are headers for that however please check your mail >> provider how to filter > > *client > > In general, for Emacs, mailing lists and FOSS use Emacs Gnus > [see screenshot] with Gmane, CC (case closed). > > https://dataswamp.org/~incal/figures/emacs/gnus/gnus-gmane.png > > -- > underground experts united > https://dataswamp.org/~incal > > > --=20 The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com