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On 11/29/22, Samuel Wales wrote: > unfortunately i am going to admit that i am more confused than ever. > > [the story: i want to notice replies to my emails and conversations in > which i have participated. but i send emacs mailing list email to a > tag/folder. i want the ones i am part of to go to my inbox or > some other prominent location.] > > can it be done without requesting all respondents to include me in cc > or to? that seems burdensome to them and brittle. > > alternatives sem to be by some header magic at the emacs mailing list > server, or by filtering in my webmail. > > > here is the thing: i note that my webmail puts a unicode >> in front > of conversation that have posts directed to me and > in front of > conversations that include me as part of them. this is /exactly/ the > distinciton i want. > > i want all emacs mailng list email to go to my emacs folder / tag / > [whatever it is in this webmail], /except/ all conversations with > or >>>, which go to inbox. so, if gmail had an e.g. has:arrows search > trick [idk if it does], then maybe i could construct a filter to go to > the emacs tag that would look like [list:emacs -(has:arrows)] or > something. i probably got that wrong due to cognitive issues. > > idk if it does have that feature in its search capability, but given > that it has that feature /in the first place/ suggests to me that all > the information it needs, it has. although maybe it has to look at > all posts in the conversation to know? > > i do notice that if i search for mail like list:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > (to:me OR from:me), then that is a pretty good approximation of the > conversations i want to notice. but the filter interface does not > allow search expressions. > > On 11/26/22, Emanuel Berg wrote: >> Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar wrote: >> >>>> i am subscribed to this list, but it is in a different >>>> folder. even if i participate in a thread, including >>>> starting one, it stays in that folder, so i frequently miss >>>> replies to my posts. are there settings for these maiing >>>> lists that will add headers like in-reply-to or references >>>> or something so that those particular threads will show up >>>> in my inbox? >>> >>> There are ways to do that however if a user doesn't >>> correctly cc >> >> Okay, what's the correct CC then? >> >>> There are headers for that however please check your mail >>> provider how to filter >> >> *client >> >> In general, for Emacs, mailing lists and FOSS use Emacs Gnus >> [see screenshot] with Gmane, CC (case closed). >> >> https://dataswamp.org/~incal/figures/emacs/gnus/gnus-gmane.png >> >> -- >> underground experts united >> https://dataswamp.org/~incal >> >> >> > > > -- > The Kafka Pandemic > > A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: > https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com > --=20 The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com