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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::132 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/help-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120825 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/120825> On 6/7/19, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote: > anything lower level than lisp. unless somebody says use this > construct. for clarity i mean, merely, like, that great blog on efficiency that said the cl-loop construct is fast. [i like fp, but i also like cl-loop.]