Re: basic navigation

[Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>]

true, true, but i am really focusing on actually changing fundamental
navigation like backward-kill-word and similar commands to match
intuition more frequently, rather than find a different thing to do,
or specialize to a mode.

i want to be able to be in any editing mode and just use word or
paragraph or whatever commands with better results.

if what i want is nonsensical or impossible, so be it.  but i think
maybe, idk, if point always went to beginning of thing, or non-word
syntax were treated as word-like so that the / and then the / and then
the --- would be killed, it might work?  idk.

spaces might be an issue.  idk if there is a solution that makes them
less of an issue.  i am askiung for packages.

On 7/4/23, Platon Pronko <platon7pronko@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2023-07-05 07:55, Samuel Wales wrote:
>> ***** basic navigation and killing
>> i am wondering if there are packages that can do this kind
>> of thing better.
>>
>> this applies to any editing.  here is an example.  suppose i
>> am on an org-mode heading, with point at ^.
>>
>> never mind the actual text.  my goal is to transform it to
>> this.
>>
>>     *** ^gather and do physical
>>
>> so i do the first thing that comes to mind: c-backspace
>> which runs backward-kill-word in my emacs 27.1.
>>
>> there are of course many other things i can do, instead,
>> such as go to bol, use delete-char, etc., but i want to
>> illustrate basic word killing with this example.  what
>> occurs is this, successively.
>>
>>     *** --- /various to do/ and to ^gather and do physical
>>     *** --- /various to do/ and ^gather and do physical
>>     *** --- /various to do/ ^gather and do physical
>>     *** --- /various to ^gather and do physical
>>
>> i don't particularly mind the command's ignorance of org
>> syntax here.
>>
>>     *** --- /various ^gather and do physical
>>     *** --- /^gather and do physical
>>
>> and then once more to get rid of the --- syntax, which is a
>> bit of an emacs editing disaster.  what i wanted was to have
>> it produce what i set out to do.  maybe naive, but i wonder
>> if there might be different killing/nav paradigms.
>>
>> i've been vexed by this since the 1980s with only sporadic
>> attempts to see if i can improve on it.  time to rely on
>> others for some ideas and possible existing packages.
>> please be gentle with me.  am cognitively impaired.
>>
>
> In this particular situation I'd do it like this: C-space, C-a, 4x C-f, C-w
> (set mark, move to beginning of the line, move 4 characters forward, delete
> selection).
> Or alternatively C-space, C-a, M-4 C-f, C-w (same thing but automate
> repetitive C-f).
>
> Actually, you can use (setq org-special-ctrl-a/e t), then you can drop 4x
> C-f because C-a will take you to beginning of the heading automatically.
>
> If you need to do this particular thing often you can make a macro out of
> it, or a small interactive function.
>
> By the way, there's also C-0 C-k (kill to the beginning of the line), but
> that will also remove the heading asterisks, which is probably not
> intended.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Platon Pronko
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>
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