From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Samuel Wales Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: can undo unamalgamation be turned off reliably and completely? Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:59:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87k0u40w75.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19834"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 30 03:00:27 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kjYUL-000551-TE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 03:00:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33714 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjYUK-000243-Ko for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 21:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjYTi-00023k-Ma for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 20:59:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-x42d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d]:41199) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjYTh-0000IL-8t for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 20:59:46 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id t8so9416004pfg.8 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:59:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=DJsB6DOwm5y8ESAF7gbAZv/QOtzTg/9r8KGFSBILVlw=; b=PFHwKxfTyE/ME0xrfAsjsvD+okrQ6mO81z8gRjjTs3KlnUt8wqVKWJ5W23l2blZI73 JfotcDZQYdX7FbkDuJUCYaFMAeOU6tu20PRyRh5poo2vwqtmi6Fimnv+uFdsMR8FNU/S PEVvqjaZaczjW8Jz4PQ6bUBzU3hVcRSlriZk93b3A++mbKBYUz24CfEVzGeA+tLgfa3/ oMVZNiKQ4AIS+Mv3EEMJTBc2x6d2BpOBnoVQsZ7ronCQNsGNks++Ijm6/a09UMRQH75n y1LqaL9O8HakEmZnZOwPQzFzxVAAVBBy5sXSU8xUEOoMV0KI2Ao8QKhhQegmAqbstDh4 8TsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DJsB6DOwm5y8ESAF7gbAZv/QOtzTg/9r8KGFSBILVlw=; b=M67tjKk98ZHhN31rARxEr28Fy1GMadTZJEph6BFtXy/bcn4/qzbEX0g/joH/g2baYu mOpqJilUJImUkQxiUpWDXjQ7n/+F2Hj900KZKFNMqXB8MfjQX5kHhsnfRfcZCgkH/dcG DgPXHtTUDrShPY8QLtd4daLZbZIWMcCF66N1v/0xNPO40Q9aQeYfLz1kGflb6gghzrdU okSG+HvkXPZM+WOa11QlSR9Fr17i+wnCiobEcg2M8lKZ6Na4S1vQEKrkM1M7AQ5gPDnp nWRzybC0GPDRQpj9/1Odm0YnuVGNPynbo4NMaDTNhDqa2u8A5p2I942l/GOSTDc3edGl 1jJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530W2xJ59tmjxH2uNjvURcbWcCzj9S1NYpStBbbVmWfIl98JEeMN zmFu1T9rt4kJSwc/xg8Pt49hCJ54lQ79UH1DuUE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyEdRa33dlggXLSG6DrBZaOrq5RvbpdRO7urAAKlt2LB2SlZ0/JlisG/LivkgJR4t7ysDdDf+Bc71K6rOwOahQ= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:9635:0:b029:197:f590:8563 with SMTP id r21-20020aa796350000b0290197f5908563mr16333153pfg.58.1606701583824; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:59:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:d10f:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 17:59:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k0u40w75.fsf@web.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d; envelope-from=samologist@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x42d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125759 Archived-At: amalgamating-undo-limit does not exist in my emacs 25. in what version did/will it first appear? i am glad that this [i hope] solves the problem in a future [to my] version of emacs. i wonder if it is solvable in emacs 25 also. more below: On 11/29/20, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Are these additional problems you experienced? Have you investigated or > reported them? i only experienced them trying to stop the amalgamating. one [checking interactivity] is mentioned clearly in a docstring as being unreliable, so i hopefully presume it is in a bug report someplace. i have confirmed its unreliability, is all. the other [adding bunching commands] is presumably a feature for those who, unlike me, can tolerate amalgamation. it was mentioned in NEWS around emacs 24-25 ish.