From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Is Emacs very alive, active and improving? Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:43:20 -0300 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377557355 8668 80.91.229.3 (26 Aug 2013 22:49:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wanessa_Sim=E3o_Barbosa?= To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 27 00:49:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VE5b1-0003Sk-MQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 00:49:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53305 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VE5b1-0002Ua-CC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:49:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36771) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VE5VK-0008Mc-Di for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:43:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VE5VJ-0008Ef-CQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qc0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22f]:49831) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VE5VJ-0008Eb-86 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:43:21 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id m4so2144548qcy.34 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:43:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ggNPnp09mSSkTOqyDlOlFpqfr6BaWZWnwio9EhzF8No=; b=v8zWgOn0lsn02zQN+JkzEa6K6QkkbG6dzhyIrkTdzzasnjNEqh49Y8I/C6kaD7yYln bQaBHrxfD05AXtJisZTjU/pHYZc62FwYLp6uEpz/8tVHKBNHUWcnoqoUZOharf2oY50L Bv08F4qSCs3W5Nu/aM94Z9uzv3eiKeOg8bBBfbEizU/pLNzMw5eAqnVBlnfR1wlGsmKN AXv/wR0tkASPWqa09NMsblURn7ZYuhEsQkEhRZOcZn8C7G2Dl3JWJuRJY0KR5BX4khYf VXj4rIHflfYxgXyxa79vxUGxHQ3LIXs0Y10F3KTvKUilZy2JFbhCY3Ppz14P4JMj6A1j /gGg== X-Received: by 10.49.24.178 with SMTP id v18mr20180616qef.12.1377557000646; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.49.94.170 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:43:20 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22f X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:49:05 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93097 Archived-At: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=emacs editor,eclipse ide Since 2004 Eclipse (Emac's primary competiton for my use case) has lost some 71% of its "trendiness" according to Google. But Emacs has lost more, dropping from 25 to 4 (84% less). Does this Google Trends graph reflect reality? I am worried because I have personally met only one other Emacs user (not counting people I only talked to via the Internet). Of course, popularity is far from the only criteria, I don't have to obey fashion (if I did, I wouldn't be using GNU/Linux). But I do want my development environment to be reasonably active, improving and well supported. Can I reasonably trust Emacs to be active and improving by 2018? At least as a LaTeX editor, IDE for C++, Python, Javascript and Java, and general text editor. Thank you for your attention. Sorry for any bad English, I am Brazilian. -- The sooner we fight global heating, the lesser the cost. -- http://overpopulationisamyth.com/