From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "like other editors" [was: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete] Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 21:32:41 +0530 Message-ID: References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20111003093334.0bf5d988@kuru.homelinux.net> <4E89B613.9060305@mousecar.com> <1317749236.13827.YahooMailNeo@web161614.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3078150882048104ae8f5642 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317830589 21041 80.91.229.12 (5 Oct 2011 16:03:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 16:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-delete-poll@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 18:03:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBTw0-0001Ak-PY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 18:03:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59130 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBTw0-0007jc-3h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55557) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBTvu-0007jK-T8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:02:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBTvq-0007hx-So for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:02:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:33378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBTve-0007Uk-U5; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:02:42 -0400 Original-Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so1817704vcb.0 for ; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pmhONciAUDCFxZZIyV62Os+ThW5EDOawVV12DwL3IF4=; b=LDN/McjVG5bXskrO+DeSf5JyyWHvffiyVzT4sGXvmDhEsu1CYYrfXy+RHK+od/8K+q Via/O5E5K4FWCnN7qUtRzsh6DWkA02hizdDVUkOUZdo3mU3uW5S0dLQzTNkydf/LQVgD qKcpyY/wTp6SQZg97y1cl1mvS8hdoeOjqXiTg= Original-Received: by 10.52.29.5 with SMTP id f5mr2547291vdh.70.1317830561760; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.220.202.77 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.220.169 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82482 Archived-At: --20cf3078150882048104ae8f5642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > One objection from a hacker - I won't say who he is - complained > that it would require him to change his .emacs to disable the > menubar. Understanding the stupidy of this argument is left as an > exercise. > > If only one person objects to this change, then it would be comparable > to the change of enabling menus. If many object, that will be the > crucial difference. > > The poll will tell us which one it is. > > There is one clarification that will make the poll more helpful I feel: If the change(s) are accepted and a user wants old behavior what is the customizations he would need to make? --20cf3078150882048104ae8f5642 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
=A0 =A0One objection from a hacker - I won't say who he is - complaine= d
=A0 =A0that it would require him to change his .emacs to disable the
=A0 =A0menubar.=A0 Understanding the stupidy of this argument is left as a= n
=A0 =A0exercise.

If only one person objects to this change, then it would be comparable
to the change of enabling menus. =A0If many object, that will be the
crucial difference.

The poll will tell us which one it is.


There is one clar= ification that will make the poll more helpful I feel:
If the change(s) = are accepted and a user wants old behavior what is the customizations he wo= uld need to make?
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