From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hongyi Zhao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Too fine design granularity leads to numerous macro/function/command existed in Emacs. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:34:59 +0800 Message-ID: References: <875yw94w0e.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21531"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 13 10:35:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mESfE-0005K2-LE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 10:35:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54436 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mESfD-0004E4-Ip for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 04:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mESeo-0004Dg-V8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 04:35:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x135.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::135]:45842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mESen-0002KD-Bq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 04:35:14 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id g13so18525304lfj.12 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 01:35:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=OWrTejA6GnJ6QifSvjTOq4I5sJDCzMo67s96pUIuV0U=; b=NarWccr+QYD6+RuQv0brAKR/OypQkVsPtcnpQUkKhqIWaRlMpDwFTrAbh/+CpFcJ8k AZgIpjdNoV2unOIyMMhZkbMKacyevbT3j86yPNMS2LrRFV4OYCklZKo5QYP/Kkgc/lLZ KCDvc0LsS2Kkbncvlwy5sW9Y57JwH7Sla24XTRfxkY4sXLo2AS0ARgMLIz6Azx3OKbiM 0fidf6XH074bZgtZ9X60QMXDY+pErHFfQY9tuXIspC5a13noNgzqAZ15RM+sMmJFwKBU TshFM5lBBtXyuyefYGE8rzPbZwuKM593ACryZ5RzvgouKmp65BqNoG4FQ1rpa4GrLJOO SQeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=OWrTejA6GnJ6QifSvjTOq4I5sJDCzMo67s96pUIuV0U=; b=JSSgQsp7pz8aN4wXGUMEYSd2pA7rbi34wDnF2yfwkpeNwLSaA6dpaHyrOnSZ+bl0o2 wUUVlMXs/XdhicddkwWv9oUGZTMcybimdnDP+p3lfCdBPxoWks7vWNoYX4mm7+7fdKOe uNL8gpxyrJDrezru54xVSJPRfDXEqHI7zTe2CrKIRh2NDRFUfTuF7Pmo3iaIyKCSeXd0 Tcs5+aYZs1jP/MGLpEjAHSaCEGc6MbN3ULloN3nKAQBntpJHMsqX435IbPRViGDlgEnu a/gXyTuloGaTdT9AMGJZcb3s8CuZrBph8/OzXxi7c2vrOBgwFZ+MbTgaLlniOboGreht 5MMg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530CqS4g8SnQTLwdAZv85ytMMXxWTJe3/omBgH9oCcwtlx+kosT1 WoshJ22+ZCKDicjScAX9ZDGVM0q3WUh7A6cYf9Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwQxsgEeMA35gOeNyOiD7MlDCuV1c1Dj6SaQnZxIbNggJ2JbaCEctai1DXSnZSNg7emrCrHME7bLqobT22FPQ0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:556:: with SMTP id h22mr902197lfl.461.1628843711600; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 01:35:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <875yw94w0e.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::135; envelope-from=hongyi.zhao@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x135.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132493 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 3:58 PM Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > [...] > With the maximalist approach it is unavoidable that > sometimes one function can do 1 2 and 3, and another can do 2, > 3, and 4, so it seems they have "too fine granularity" in your > phrasing but outside the intersection is actually ... 1 and 4! Then why not combine the two into one, which can do 1, 2, 3, and 4? > The most important thing is that everything makes sense and > works, if it overlaps, has inconsistent names with respect to > each other, yada yada, I mean try to avoid it but if it > happens it is not a problem, really. > > -- > underground experts united Why do you use the above sentence as the signature? Does it have any profound implications? > https://dataswamp.org/~incal Hongyi