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From: Alexandre Oberlin <alxobr@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 14:27:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-CoNrZmmTQMaxfTGD1MQqgETcyF27iFfCc5BG7k=4WJw5YNA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8f41de8-d819-4986-a915-bef4e6428ee0@default>

Hello,

Thanks Drew for your understanding. I don’t think I lost much data this
time because I automatically perform the awfully outdated rcs (hopefully
nobody tries to "maintain" rcs to make it behave like a Microsoft
application!) and also have some backup strategy. This time I simply lost
about two hours, but I am still under this threat and might have other
files corrupted without having noticed.

> But if you can describe what you did in more detail it would help.
No problem:
C-y
C-x C-s
No prompt, no auto-saved copy, no warning whatsoever: farewell!

What is still worse is that this does not even happen consistently (only
say 50% of the times). The behavior is affected by repeatedly setting the
mark (C-space). Just reading the help for such a simple command as
(set-mark-command ARG) is a mere piece of fun. Don’t Emacs
developers/maintainers understand that an editor is to be USED by USERS,
not constantly modified and absurdly complicated by people trying to show
up their skills?

I use GNU Emacs in several contexts:
1. Standard Debian 8 installation
2. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Live with persistence
3. Cygwin on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1
I use the same .emacs for all contexts. For several years now I’ve not been
able to get a safe, stable and sufficiently convenient behavior anymore,
especially relative to clipboard and accented characters.





On 24 December 2015 at 02:37, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> > I have stopped hoping that the current maintainers of Emacs still have an
> > ounce of common sense. How on Earth can it be possible (and quite easy)
> to
> > allow replacing a huge hidden selection when pasting text without any
> > warning ? I have lost large amounts of data with this incredibly stupid
> > behavior. There isn't even a warning when saving a file which has shrunk
> a
> > lot, like there once was. How can I DEFINITELY avoid overwriting an
> > invisible selection in all versions of Emacs?
>
> I can tell you are upset, and I would be too, no doubt.  But if you
> can describe what you did in more detail it would help.
>
> At the very least it might help others avoid the same gotcha that
> apparently bit you.  This is a user help list, and most people
> reading it and contributing to it are users, like you.
>
> If you can provide a step-by-step recipe to describe what you did
> and what happened, that can also serve as a bug report or enhancement
> request, which you can post using `M-x report-emacs-bug'.
>
> HTH.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-24 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-24  1:01 Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text Alexandre Oberlin
2015-12-24  1:37 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-24 13:27   ` Alexandre Oberlin [this message]
2015-12-24 23:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-25  1:18     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found]     ` <mailman.529.1451006347.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 21:40       ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-02 22:03         ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1550.1451772215.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 22:28           ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-02 23:04             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1551.1451775915.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-03  0:11               ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-03  0:28                 ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1554.1451780942.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-03  0:41                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-03  1:07                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-03  2:10                     ` Robert Thorpe
2016-01-03  2:11                 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  2:25                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-03  3:10                   ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  3:21                     ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  4:09                 ` Yuri Khan
2016-01-03  5:08                   ` Random832
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.1572.1451797753.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 17:13                     ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 14:07                       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.2334.1452780465.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 15:35                         ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 16:11                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-01-14 17:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 16:36                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-14 16:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2341.1452787916.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 16:45                             ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 17:05                               ` Kaushal Modi
2016-01-14 19:37                           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2359.1452800411.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 23:41                             ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1570.1451794187.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 16:42                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-13 17:54                     ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2302.1452707668.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 13:57                       ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1564.1451787927.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 17:26                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]     ` <mailman.528.1450998293.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 14:00       ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 15:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-24  5:48 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-12-24 14:40 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-12-27 22:15 ` Robert Thorpe

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