From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Whitfield Diffie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Reply to list [was: Different key maps in different dired buffers] Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 04:42:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4159df5c-3545-4c5a-829f-abc80f620813@default> <57473688.4020503@gmail.com> <20160527070959.GB27615@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1464349392 27437 80.91.229.3 (27 May 2016 11:43:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>, "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 27 13:43:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b6GAX-0005VB-Et for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 13:43:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45422 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6GAT-0006WC-16 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 07:43:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6GA3-0006Up-Sp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 07:42:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6GA3-000565-1n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 07:42:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229]:34795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b6GA2-00055w-TG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2016 07:42:38 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-x229.google.com with SMTP id y126so77250121qke.1 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 04:42:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc; bh=RFXCYHGCgXomkfjG+TvBfMsb2F9ftrb5vQHrCGHcnaU=; b=SiZjFp8kr/WH3W2t+crVhfC8ipMsd9UV4mMbFBxhNpQ9a4fmxjpVNkP6AJf8F5pCr7 QGolSgsJXvhXhYSKwhD2N9lczRI3/eUadNPBwcCUuxksogZ7TfAZcPegDYfIgL5EWC/G vsv3Pad8tgwKVJ2PyrTdsL4r9TmrW+VZZb46mQyDBJeZjjIhFimuouPku3zK96j7Ao/6 08+cpitgCpymHtew4IVmm1x5fGbzl+zUultCalfyjpCXPyphW64uLbPD/K0JWRtmCZxm 3ExTMWub4JvR3JiB7QquiY7AdSLYu0md8Vdpp45zRtweOz5casJiWQA/m5x0m/TkSSVr 3x1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=RFXCYHGCgXomkfjG+TvBfMsb2F9ftrb5vQHrCGHcnaU=; b=Ii/4yjIvzWDG+8qlmQ984CD94+HeSkh0ls+SBi+spholdTqBqeBx610j9/hS0j7k39 L55HwxeXKcI26pcjlaIKEinvAP+loBbntWPsfykIf21P2OryI3uLrXhs0Zp4DshE3Fq5 x1hEiID6qu96d7dqXkSLy6f+VPDeqadD9HYT+T8rzF0+DTK3KflhfJ+1i0YYDpYFlbqP j0Gq674RBwlGNnSOt3Govu9OM4HpBozyo4mdpEpiSM3i7iZtJji6cVqeHS7WlQinYiQn cnBEAzkzoK49Oip1YuNsGTeaKRiNV1JhKp/oYJIbh5h45I8LrHeAS0M2aXdy0etQXQH/ X5MA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJtf6P8/K3b8pce7VpXNLhZHZkzjA9UjSbTTSROAH6XXlkzXdGhxXIacYvKmoXol1Qnum5cYVy4J8uyvA== X-Received: by 10.55.3.7 with SMTP id 7mr13700277qkd.154.1464349358136; Fri, 27 May 2016 04:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.55.3.10 with HTTP; Fri, 27 May 2016 04:42:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160527070959.GB27615@tuxteam.de> X-Google-Sender-Auth: I6Lv1bXRh7PWzGzdZKtg3USIqH0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::229 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110131 Archived-At: > Sorry for hijacking the thread: is it (roughly) consensus here > to "reply to all" instead of replying to list? > I happily handle both ways, but have been scolded elsewhere for not > (strictly) replying to list. That's why I didn't dare here. First: thank you very much. > This happens because usually, the buffer's local keymap is set up as > a *reference* to the major mode's keymap [1]. If you want to change > that, you'd have to dissociate this reference by copying. Something > like (warning: untested code ahead) > (use-local-map (copy-keymap (current-local-map))) >might do the trick [2], [3] It did and the explanation makes clear what is not clear from the documentation I could find. Drew, I also thank you for suggesting submodes that inherit; it is a better solution and I will pursue it. Second: I was subscribed to this list for a long time but decided that since I didn't have enough time to work on it, I was better just reading it from the server when I was interested. It didn't occur to me that I might not see a reply if I asked a question. Now I need to go back and see if someone answered my previous question --- to change echo-area editing, I had to recreate the whole line editor and it didn't seem that should have been necessary. Again, this has been a wonderful experience with the list and I thank you all very much. Whit