From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Guido Van Hoecke Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Hang on startup on OS X (GUI only) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 18:30:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5c617979-7483-48fe-a279-eaf91c5c86f1@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446399063 10661 80.91.229.3 (1 Nov 2015 17:31:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 01 18:30:47 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZswSt-0006II-C0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 18:30:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38171 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZswSs-000729-PS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 12:30:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZswSf-000722-FB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 12:30:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZswSd-0007xS-VA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 12:30:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]:36846) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZswSd-0007xO-M9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 12:30:31 -0500 Original-Received: by wicfx6 with SMTP id fx6so37017213wic.1 for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 09:30:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=5TUcLm0/+JaXh3iKfNp1inoze8iLFNo5HKU95Kxqfrk=; b=kCCn5ztzDlujru5Fe92CE/sK60GTRJZZouobpzwvjse0j9EvPqRYFCK2uD/BnAO5mF iol43ntJeJNwqMNE3wJZXsvC2kTx4ZZ4Sy5bypjcznEA2riMDDnpw5rul9bpjh1xPV22 r4fgLGCxNNgpQUwxUdWrqUY8hwK9mAIDR6bHFZRWxB5/sqpeUczdNaexpH7ebylpDSyM 2x4yuezd8eazeSUgJqCwmEGcDJUO58PuT8yDoFxFWQKvx1jazb65pqbI9ynxlGblhMSU wcX1tfYu+PrRB78RGbr7jEp6DU6/ria80E4ke75R95YhQqVFo3qLIU3uh6ywAE2v9ha+ OWbg== X-Received: by 10.194.62.112 with SMTP id x16mr22537025wjr.132.1446399030812; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 09:30:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.28.43.194 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Nov 2015 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107887 Archived-At: FWIW, here's my current situation: I'm currently running GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0, NS appkit-1265.21 Version 10.9.5 (Build 13F1112)) of 2015-10-24 Emacs does not hang any more, but the instance launched by OSX during startup frequently crashes (about 70%). The next instance, launched from the dock, seldom crashes (less than 10%). This is far from perfect, but imho still better than the hang situation. Guido On 14 October 2015 at 04:50, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I'm long had the same problem with a variety of different Emacs builds > > (various builds from from http://emacsformacosx.com as well as a couple > of > > homebrew builds). It was not always this way, but I can't put my finger > on > > the exact change that triggered this behavior. Currently running OS > > X 10.10.5 on an early 2013 13" MBP with 16 GB RAM. I would love to know > the > > solution to this problem. > > AFAIK it's a race-condition that shows up only since some version of OSX > and which is fixed in Emacs's "master" branch. I suggest you try > a snapshot build of that development code to confirm that it fixes it > for you. > > > Stefan > > >