unofficial mirror of help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
* local database types for personal use
@ 2011-12-26  0:42 ishi soichi
  2011-12-26  1:37 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: ishi soichi @ 2011-12-26  0:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 646 bytes --]

Hi.  I have a question about database which can be easily used in Emacs.
Since I have little experience in developing database, I need some advice
for it.

An entry of the database will be like,

word  : meaning
         : date it's encountered
         : where (file or URL) it's encountered
         : how often it has shown up so far
         : etc.


There are various ways to implement such LOCAL database with Emacs.
For example,

hash-table
assoc
plain text
csv
splite
and maybe others.

Which method would you suggest for developing a local database like this?

Not to mention that it has to be fast for searching and organizing.

soichi

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 978 bytes --]

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: local database types for personal use
  2011-12-26  0:42 local database types for personal use ishi soichi
@ 2011-12-26  1:37 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  2011-12-26  1:47   ` Soichi Ishida
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2011-12-26  1:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ishi soichi; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

() ishi soichi <soichi777@gmail.com>
() Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:42:08 +0900

   hash-table
   assoc
   plain text
   csv
   splite
   and maybe others.

   Which method would you suggest for developing a local database like this?

If there is just one table in this database, you might try EDB,
whose homepage is <http://www.gnuvola.org/software/edb/>.



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: local database types for personal use
  2011-12-26  1:37 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2011-12-26  1:47   ` Soichi Ishida
  2011-12-26  1:57     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Soichi Ishida @ 2011-12-26  1:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thien-Thi Nguyen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

I have totally forgotten EBD :)

What if I have more than one table?

soichi

2011/12/26 Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>:
> () ishi soichi <soichi777@gmail.com>
> () Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:42:08 +0900
>
>   hash-table
>   assoc
>   plain text
>   csv
>   splite
>   and maybe others.
>
>   Which method would you suggest for developing a local database like this?
>
> If there is just one table in this database, you might try EDB,
> whose homepage is <http://www.gnuvola.org/software/edb/>.



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: local database types for personal use
  2011-12-26  1:47   ` Soichi Ishida
@ 2011-12-26  1:57     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  2011-12-26 19:08       ` Alan E. Davis
  2012-01-22  1:30       ` Samuel Wales
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2011-12-26  1:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Soichi Ishida; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

() Soichi Ishida <soujiro0725@gmail.com>
() Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:47:58 +0900

   I have totally forgotten EBD :)

   What if I have more than one table?

Then your forgetfulness is ideal.



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: local database types for personal use
  2011-12-26  1:57     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2011-12-26 19:08       ` Alan E. Davis
  2012-01-22 15:51         ` Alan E. Davis
  2012-01-22  1:30       ` Samuel Wales
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2011-12-26 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Soichi Ishida, help-gnu-emacs, Thien-Thi Nguyen

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 950 bytes --]

Band format is a free-form format used in linguistics for lexical data.

The following is  from a google search.

http://billposer.org/Linguistics/Computation/LectureNotes/ParsingLexica.html

I have used my own version of this format for a lexicon.  If you wish, I
can spend more time explaining how ti did it.

Basically, each "field" is marked by a dot and one or more letters.  Two
dots mark the beginning of a record.

..hw  means "headword"  (use anything you want)
.d    could mean date
.ge  could mean "english gloss"
.gd  could mean "dutch gloss"
.p    could mean part of speech.

Two spaces preceed each .X

New categories can be made up on the fly.

Alan Davis

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> wrote:

> () Soichi Ishida <soujiro0725@gmail.com>
> () Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:47:58 +0900
>
>   I have totally forgotten EBD :)
>
>   What if I have more than one table?
>
> Then your forgetfulness is ideal.
>
>

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1490 bytes --]

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: local database types for personal use
  2011-12-26  1:57     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  2011-12-26 19:08       ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2012-01-22  1:30       ` Samuel Wales
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2012-01-22  1:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thien-Thi Nguyen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Soichi Ishida

If you only want to maintain one multi-line field, and you don't have
too much data,
then Org-mode properties are a possibility.  For more than one
multi-line field, you will need to serialize.

Samuel

-- 
The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com
===
Bigotry against people with serious diseases is still bigotry.



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: local database types for personal use
  2011-12-26 19:08       ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2012-01-22 15:51         ` Alan E. Davis
  2012-01-25  6:44           ` ishi soichi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2012-01-22 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Soichi Ishida, help-gnu-emacs, Thien-Thi Nguyen

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2391 bytes --]

Did you find a format amenable to your needs?

I had intended to send this short example of band format some months
ago.    Ban format is perfect for what you are doing.  You can write simple
utility routines to search or sort the database.

Two entries in  band format follow.  A record does not need to occupy on
line.  "..hw" always begins a new record:

..hw lun kaeja  .gs   .ge Jellyfish (secondary etc names describe the
specific type)  .ec Jellyfish  .cg cnidaria  .la Mokil  .src  .n Father of
a student   .dt [2010-08-27 Fri]

..hw lagong  .gs   .ge Big, green fly  .ec   .cg Insect  .la Cebuano  .src
FSD .n came up as an exception to the general name for fly.   .dt
[2010-06-11 Fri]

.. begins a record
..hw  headword tag
.gs  Scientific Name
.ge  English gloss
.ec  English common name
.cg  catagory
.la  language
..src  Source
.dt  date

I wrote some little macros / routines that converted a record into a
typeset dictionary in LaTeX.  A frontend, as it were.  Each tag is typeset
in a distinct font.  Robert Hsu who was at the University of Hawaii
linguistics department in the 90s, wrote a spitbol/snobol4 package for
manipulating data in band format, used in producing several dictionaries of
several pacific languages.   Others have developed band formats distinct
from this one.

Alan


On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Band format is a free-form format used in linguistics for lexical data.
>
> The following is  from a google search.
>
>
> http://billposer.org/Linguistics/Computation/LectureNotes/ParsingLexica.html
>
> I have used my own version of this format for a lexicon.  If you wish, I
> can spend more time explaining how ti did it.
>
> Basically, each "field" is marked by a dot and one or more letters.  Two
> dots mark the beginning of a record.
>
> ..hw  means "headword"  (use anything you want)
> .d    could mean date
> .ge  could mean "english gloss"
> .gd  could mean "dutch gloss"
> .p    could mean part of speech.
>
> Two spaces preceed each .X
>
> New categories can be made up on the fly.
>
> Alan Davis
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> wrote:
>
>> () Soichi Ishida <soujiro0725@gmail.com>
>> () Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:47:58 +0900
>>
>>   I have totally forgotten EBD :)
>>
>>   What if I have more than one table?
>>
>> Then your forgetfulness is ideal.
>>
>>
>

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3346 bytes --]

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: local database types for personal use
  2012-01-22 15:51         ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2012-01-25  6:44           ` ishi soichi
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: ishi soichi @ 2012-01-25  6:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan E. Davis; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Thien-Thi Nguyen, Soichi Ishida

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2597 bytes --]

Thanks for the info!
I will check it out.

soichi

2012/1/23 Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com>

> Did you find a format amenable to your needs?
>
> I had intended to send this short example of band format some months
> ago.    Ban format is perfect for what you are doing.  You can write simple
> utility routines to search or sort the database.
>
> Two entries in  band format follow.  A record does not need to occupy on
> line.  "..hw" always begins a new record:
>
> ..hw lun kaeja  .gs   .ge Jellyfish (secondary etc names describe the
> specific type)  .ec Jellyfish  .cg cnidaria  .la Mokil  .src  .n Father of
> a student   .dt [2010-08-27 Fri]
>
> ..hw lagong  .gs   .ge Big, green fly  .ec   .cg Insect  .la Cebuano  .src
> FSD .n came up as an exception to the general name for fly.   .dt
> [2010-06-11 Fri]
>
> .. begins a record
> ..hw  headword tag
> .gs  Scientific Name
> .ge  English gloss
> .ec  English common name
> .cg  catagory
> .la  language
> ..src  Source
> .dt  date
>
> I wrote some little macros / routines that converted a record into a
> typeset dictionary in LaTeX.  A frontend, as it were.  Each tag is typeset
> in a distinct font.  Robert Hsu who was at the University of Hawaii
> linguistics department in the 90s, wrote a spitbol/snobol4 package for
> manipulating data in band format, used in producing several dictionaries of
> several pacific languages.   Others have developed band formats distinct
> from this one.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Band format is a free-form format used in linguistics for lexical data.
>>
>> The following is  from a google search.
>>
>>
>> http://billposer.org/Linguistics/Computation/LectureNotes/ParsingLexica.html
>>
>> I have used my own version of this format for a lexicon.  If you wish, I
>> can spend more time explaining how ti did it.
>>
>> Basically, each "field" is marked by a dot and one or more letters.  Two
>> dots mark the beginning of a record.
>>
>> ..hw  means "headword"  (use anything you want)
>> .d    could mean date
>> .ge  could mean "english gloss"
>> .gd  could mean "dutch gloss"
>> .p    could mean part of speech.
>>
>> Two spaces preceed each .X
>>
>> New categories can be made up on the fly.
>>
>> Alan Davis
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org>wrote:
>>
>>> () Soichi Ishida <soujiro0725@gmail.com>
>>> () Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:47:58 +0900
>>>
>>>   I have totally forgotten EBD :)
>>>
>>>   What if I have more than one table?
>>>
>>> Then your forgetfulness is ideal.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3827 bytes --]

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

end of thread, other threads:[~2012-01-25  6:44 UTC | newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
2011-12-26  0:42 local database types for personal use ishi soichi
2011-12-26  1:37 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-12-26  1:47   ` Soichi Ishida
2011-12-26  1:57     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-12-26 19:08       ` Alan E. Davis
2012-01-22 15:51         ` Alan E. Davis
2012-01-25  6:44           ` ishi soichi
2012-01-22  1:30       ` Samuel Wales

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).