From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Why eev has a weird elisp tutorial and how to use it Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 13:06:23 -0300 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17230"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 27 18:34:34 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nD8fJ-0004Az-Oi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 18:34:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36294 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nD8fI-00056U-LK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:34:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nD7IE-0000yo-UD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 11:06:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::533] (port=33621 helo=mail-pg1-x533.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nD7ID-0002na-9Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 11:06:38 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x533.google.com with SMTP id 133so2693902pgb.0 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:06:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZvjQUVvtnj6AWoPm45hDTX/g9C1/Ahq48LDGY+q6vO4=; b=NItiW2W2HviH9vYbU509eI+V5CbDWAIpA4tUoSrKYll89Pxyg2KoPvHIGQpcIsUexu UuDQncFRKDup7G1+7DQ2yOW/MKNc1FCLsS85OlqxM3R3/BQ6IkJHrhhfxs+sK3/f8T8R 7eb8vWseIvR1tIhICLAoZOhzrSIv7zGx41AAStScO5EQfL6YZ7Q3k5PfewuXryrarrto MRzaK7rZ5kiR6nQMsEsi2RiJy1yMqbJMF2jdkdWVkFSKrIo76T0S61EkCBWYp8xmIlL9 gGArclcbf7BgSVaj3VTonsXgUSL2QhJ+oTeW0P0qmDtLdHGY/Mxo2rWSQClsv5kL78IT gwjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZvjQUVvtnj6AWoPm45hDTX/g9C1/Ahq48LDGY+q6vO4=; b=rLQ9j9YTY1TGmR1fzT30RSayw+L2LQSzAUvVn1r6aAZmkW5U5F5CKKGABSV3tE7K/5 fR5cILFZJt/JUp71nFFYd8fnQzFpzi7yfTKGCTGz0G2HSgZfk9HhS4jOTGCkhIsIq09+ 4B1FI3ZbbcFtZVzUwhu7w49r+9qQUkanqyyK9LCW5VIqDUkquXypvihmohVp5QOUzXn2 iRyiXvWgeQav8bHOsYD/qLCPDqZpz6GAThEdrrtzyV1WrIG8i8D2UfwmTflWM1tpoyFV kfOCM58GFRXk5Fy83ZhZn3RvMvjHbOB8CdZ4hcXsRZZpPYedlTRqWuJBfvjogf7pTjEI 9fIg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530wfp/Jk7sN2fbQm/1KrDvVSDUA50pmybiftqISnQ3dYln+gM4I o7f+b4bF2w/DlvH2u7jpFSNNxhUpbJmAViBzf9KB9990l0N/tA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzql2WIetp7rSaHsZT9TMsoxlQCDdcu5piVqqdzh8noo1B6y38YtkYHNjUgIN3xK1f/HwUR/rSh4ArTCaHceFY= X-Received: by 2002:a63:84c6:: with SMTP id k189mr3194272pgd.79.1643299595139; Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:06:35 -0800 (PST) X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::533 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::533; envelope-from=eduardoochs@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x533.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135572 Archived-At: Hi list, I made a video called: "Why eev has a weird elisp tutorial and how to use it" comparing the "An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp" - a.k.a. the (info "(eintr)") - with the small elisp tutorial that comes with eev - a.k.a. the (find-elisp-intro) - and discussing the design decisions behind both. In short: a few years ago I needed an elisp tutorial for a workshop and the eintr was too book-y, so I wrote the find-elisp-intro, that was more Emacs-y. The video is here, http://angg.twu.net/find-elisp-intro.html http://angg.twu.net/eev-videos/2022-find-elisp-intro.mp4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WowDSciGs1A and first link includes a full transcript with timestamps. Comments welcome! Cheers =), Eduardo Ochs http://angg.twu.net/#eev