From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Newell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Question mail package Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:26:16 -1000 Message-ID: References: <20191021120730.4y3obbqtd45mjl7j@Ergus> <87eez6nqhp.fsf@home.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="50472"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 22 09:29:31 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iMobj-000Cyy-Mv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 09:29:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51052 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iMobi-0006Ow-57 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:29:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iMoYp-0002s8-Bn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:26:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iMoYo-0006ui-7n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-x336.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::336]:45653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iMoYn-0006u9-TX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:26:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x336.google.com with SMTP id 41so13296336oti.12 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:26:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bobnewell-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=phOMSk9z/T9PiHmIgF6UUxJP9dDveCUB/Zqz8Nq/hXg=; b=g42r++YuQJ/NgqMcrOW2SH1E4NmUcJI3JDn5thJS/4gbEqoMt8o344yB3kIc1SycL7 svrXK3PLl1JllI3HRUAwdVI5u5BoVhSRobeAze/GQ4D8aSwDFXLHOP9dP7V1Ben1ej2a eVA7ZVik7wgwu+m/Ou61FWSxvMj7gxVs14NYpNMrlyP6LLabQxkJupyCdWlK+4rSuW5X R5rEqxhgBUFJYWmu6yvpSQ4TaIeTj44Dq6ZXCbyUhxuaKWm3Xf53AClqiowkBB/ParyY wdrpJR0VxXaejMUFC1UfjqVBJqhGPBa2ZywlaYlALVVl9VlJ9BpwtyLDsy+yS9pSf3uo 06rQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=phOMSk9z/T9PiHmIgF6UUxJP9dDveCUB/Zqz8Nq/hXg=; b=PvL+BKlxgedQyEupuF1igREmQG3GLVdwkqrpp2YlOfioytQ8KLGhI8TEAkOBIAiFXL gOHmoCVmTGSlSuZ+FjE1Df1DCLW3D3F3vI4nLtjEdUhcysw1tCvgGiJe4V0Jgrypa+6A 31G4LY2LD5KpTrj7Oh8CxKckx32rs86z9JBSEPJrNSXwEqJHtHw79lrYYFt8O4pxyDAJ ZmwboaybYP5QNhrmL3ql01fHRtdFpDFaeqTNm91+Q77DIhWAqBhPto+1YZHNaLgF1qFo NlLgCOqDev6KWwZQYk3LPr9idaAxd4HCIyZIZNoluVBnwvXWQUQ5RoImr8v3DjWCNDPi JJzw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVdc0n3H8LviwC585WkO6BekM8ozrRqR8ckzxwVtViHSbpaOP0s 5QpCKxaeBuLf7ESrRegBhV3btPK0ogGXMsgFn137y7tuXTI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzVrep69qwDocoPZoyM/1/nDXiMiECRFrip8f6ISbOqFYlsh3k8bq9GtvPy4x7bZOfGi9GicEY5Evn6fE9HJTQ= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6a12:: with SMTP id g18mr1543929otn.161.1571729187385; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:26:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87eez6nqhp.fsf@home.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::336 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121688 Archived-At: > On 2019-10-21 14:07, Ergus wrote: > > Hi I have a simple question. What are the recommended > > application/package for mailing these days? Aloha, This question comes up often and there is a lot of discussion in various groups that you can access. But you characterize this as a simple question! It is actually not especially simple. It really depends what you want to do and how much effort you wish to put into it. I've used Gnus for a good 10 years and would never go back to anything else. My configuration is over 1,000 lines of elisp now and would do you little good, except as an example of how flexible, adaptable, and complex(!) Gnus can be. If you want the absolute ultimate, it's Gnus. There's never been something that I wanted to do with email and couldn't do with Gnus, including some semi-outrageous stuff like adapting language input methods based on the recipient, sending individual emails to each member of a group mailing list, and of course working with multiple email accounts and multiple, adaptive email identities (some users always get mail from my precious AOL account, etc.) Gnus in combination with BBDB and org-mode blows everything else out of the water in terms of capabilities for doing productive work with email. But that comes at a price, which is paid in time and effort, and often quite a lot of it, especially in the very beginning. Once upon a time, I used rmail (which of course also comes with emacs). Rmail is dead simple, requires relatively little configuration, and does the basics, namely, handling email sending and receiving. That's more than enough for some folks. And there are products in-between rmail and Gnus in complexity and capability. I'd suggest you think about what you want to do now with email and what you might wish to do in the future. That may help guide your choice. -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i Via Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB.