From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven Degutis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 12:50:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <0b72021c-139f-4269-8e81-5b5ef97fb83d@googlegroups.com> <8761yu64e4.fsf@Servus.decebal.nl> <87r4higq45.fsf@gmail.com> <87ip2tyftv.fsf@yahoo.fr> <20130508155351.GA5399@hysteria.proulx.com> <87obclrrb9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <25153223-A058-4762-A1FC-7744472B958A@Web.DE> <87obckqg7f.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k3n8qf7l.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87bo8kqe3c.fsf@wanadoo.es> <871u9gqd19.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368121873 19737 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2013 17:51:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 09 19:51:12 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUzn-0004Jt-KL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 19:51:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41337 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUzn-0003Pc-75 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 13:51:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60092) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUza-0003PQ-4I for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 13:51:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUzX-0004qz-8J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 13:50:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-da0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c]:56325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaUzW-0004qr-PB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 May 2013 13:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z8so1731751daj.17 for ; Thu, 09 May 2013 10:50:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TAUduF8vv8ayvHCyf757U41z5Qy4kZI8mMty+Zvagrg=; b=IVZhCseqTJSgC+fCx/fbdUBgbPwCuceOSyXeRJWgwXBLzuFI15InQAsV+FEW8DVMaZ RPsbi4LbYk5OGpAzl9n0qiMtCU7jItfZ9Rky8Y7C294pjCMpriwVnuLjXXcAEKfms4Nz URqYB+TxbVXrAV3jZgrytd9JaIiY7es/reIHKERlGO6tHs4DOMnT/7VyLUTZ0eLPv+Zk cYxAznvVGFPOlKi9iKkz9fGWMHgVEhogvf6v0IglgOsUAoRADwJeh7+06KasbqMAojXJ LltpaKHFkGsKSfkEoLHYMtH8/syyC/QvX/ThatCQr23xJ50o1Wb3YQB88za/E+ggV7q5 rCDQ== X-Received: by 10.68.251.201 with SMTP id zm9mr9083306pbc.135.1368121853582; Thu, 09 May 2013 10:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.70.58.231 with HTTP; Thu, 9 May 2013 10:50:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871u9gqd19.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90598 Archived-At: Dear mailing list: I'm terribly sorry to have started a pointless flame war. Please forgive me= . How about we all just agree that we all think differently about this, and drop this thread? -Steven On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:27 PM, =D3scar Fuentes wrote: > Jai Dayal writes: > > > Elisp is a language. Vim has a language of its own. The functionality > is > > no different and both are Chomsky NF languages. > > Right! It always annoyed me that people wasted time creating all those > languages when you can program in raw machine code. > > > You Re arguing keystroke usability not functionality. > > Uh? > > > Every argument here has been about keystrokes, not functionality. > > Perhaps in your head. > > >