From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven Degutis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 23:17:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20130505041339.GA5537@hysteria.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367727491 11184 80.91.229.3 (5 May 2013 04:18:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 04:18:11 +0000 (UTC) To: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 05 06:18:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqOn-0007tx-Qh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 06:18:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52148 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqOn-0001w2-Dh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:18:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36891) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqOb-0001vx-Ld for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:18:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqOZ-0004SO-96 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-f175.google.com ([209.85.192.175]:35789) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UYqOZ-0004SK-2d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 May 2013 00:17:55 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pd0-f175.google.com with SMTP id y14so1493593pdi.6 for ; Sat, 04 May 2013 21:17:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=z+MunaJZGpqRJOKyLiXwtsnNMNIV9Xr+H3ht+83hrIc=; b=f+ahdblSZTgzI4+iW0QBVvM7MQjusPJi3qilmD4mU8LrG89xJYRC7nfAbn7O5MgInG F9I+bg3znlJj+ilEFuwiDgepXSW0gAK7oPaxujZ3nn8Y99c9ISyV8JRsJU9wg9+DE5D9 RXPl6PYzOj9dV1S1shagT+8sxjBXd62TZYMxuXoIPerUi2ToA2x6JH3NN0GLxHr4eGDV N8lcMWdGevQy61w/SYtS/LclNajYy/ft+fCJwspZJjvjWCIljMuvQ5JtfQG1SCvWEoP5 8dguUws8cluepkvhJbia0OP6WuInw6GzItphuUzaUi+GIps/eJG3OWYJiHzdV6v+3cGk s6aQ== X-Received: by 10.66.121.202 with SMTP id lm10mr21070483pab.138.1367727474029; Sat, 04 May 2013 21:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.70.58.231 with HTTP; Sat, 4 May 2013 21:17:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130505041339.GA5537@hysteria.proulx.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.192.175 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90489 Archived-At: Any time I find myself editing files on a remote server, it's because I stupidly didn't prepare for the task properly and have to fix something "live". This is never a planned situation, and one I should really be avoiding rather than catering to. And in those rare times that I still find myself editing remote files, the server usually only has vim anyway, which gets the job done. This isn't a legitimate reason to have terminal support in a text editor that you use on a daily basis on your local GUI-enabled desktop. On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Steven Degutis wrote: >> What's the use-case for having the terminal be able to act as an editor? >> ... >> Seems like there's no real point in supporting terminal-mode in a text >> editor these days. > > I use emacs in a terminal all of the time every day. How else are you > going to edit files while logged into a remote server? > > If emacs didn't support the text terminal anymore, something that it > has done since the beginning, then it could hardly be called emacs > anymore could it? It would then be something different. Like > gtk-emacs or something. Which is fine. But if emacs weren't > available to edit files would you expect we would use vi? Horrors! > > Bob >