From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Grant Rettke Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RTF for emacs Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 20:45:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87fvk012fi.fsf@debian.uxu> <8761kw58n4.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87a9a79gvk.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400982365 23271 80.91.229.3 (25 May 2014 01:46:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 01:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Help To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 25 03:45:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WoNVb-0006Cp-44 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 May 2014 03:45:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49999 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoNVa-0006K3-My for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 21:45:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60404) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoNVP-0006JR-N1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 21:45:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoNVO-0005FU-8X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 21:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]:37368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoNVO-0005FO-1M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 21:45:42 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id va2so6884567obc.23 for ; Sat, 24 May 2014 18:45:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kT/GylT3s2gdDdzXT4CvimKl67gdAh0xBeeMlPWJpMQ=; b=HxSc3RNW+M99Hsr4iFx2QqUTtsw9SNKD1tq9GtEgLMlYOyOqUs6nLN1reL2a67v8DI WLg20rDWMN5KgwQ2d4FIxxpU3P7KKuzy/tGnnLautzT7hLUlq4ez4iWJKooT1PIu/w2F qtZTc9+oE1SO8SRwnWuX3W8+PMcffHxRQX+EMmc60ADmFn/ULiULntLTWVcIAJF8DxEl qRiGTX40ZAY/fJVnE/xEm/BJ/yGwN/1R/IvmjxehbE7eF5FRE/QzScHrXa7q8eKqlqv8 Zpx1tXh9Zp/h5MfTWb3Se7mvIqJS/ZwqqubjCYlH67zIJ0mQgaiYUzRcg0mqLbmbks/s QKVQ== X-Received: by 10.60.179.80 with SMTP id de16mr15185884oec.69.1400982341111; Sat, 24 May 2014 18:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.182.50.135 with HTTP; Sat, 24 May 2014 18:45:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a9a79gvk.fsf@debian.uxu> X-Google-Sender-Auth: bSMZq4GRp9oZv6oMSPD0a3rmHF0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97837 Archived-At: Emanuel try http://ditaa.sourceforge.net/. Grant Rettke | AAAS, ACM, ASA, FSF, IEEE, SIAM, Sigma Xi gcr@wisdomandwonder.com | http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/ =E2=80=9CWisdom begins in wonder.=E2=80=9D --Socrates ((=CE=BB (x) (x x)) (=CE=BB (x) (x x))) =E2=80=9CLife has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to st= op taking it seriously.=E2=80=9D --Thompson On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote= : > Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > > > What kind of diagrams? Does RTF handle diagrams at > > all? Unabashed plug: > > . > > Ha-ha, "foreground" :) > > But that's actually a great idea (not just aa2u, but > artist-mode as well). I have been looking for a way to > do simple diagrams (trees, FSMs and so on) with the > keyboard only (i.e., generate from definitions) - I > have tried with ImageMagick and even Dia, as it uses > XML, so why not edit that first hand? > > Answer: Problem with both approaches is that it > required too much back-and-forth > edit-and-check-and-fix-and-check-etc. so it just wasn't > pleasant or efficient (perhaps if you had a dual > monitor/projector and on-the-fly-update it would be). > > This seems very interesting! > > When I got a cool diagram, how do you propose I embed > it with the LaTeX PDF? I know there is way to include > plain text "as is" - perhaps that's even better than to > first export it as a picture, and then include the > picture? It is certainly more appealing - faster and > smaller. > > -- > underground experts united: > http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 >