From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuan Cao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs in a Corporate Environment Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:33:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16848"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Corwin Brust , John Yates To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 12 23:34:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pmi6k-00048G-Hi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 23:34:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pmi6J-0006GQ-Df; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:33:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pmi6I-0006GC-9D for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:33:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-x535.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::535]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pmi6G-0004Vl-L9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:33:58 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-x535.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-504718a2282so3878357a12.0 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:33:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1681335234; x=1683927234; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=SY5nIeldU4dNY8aUaniGcaCRMRkvsUf8dZlVHFIvTig=; b=VvP/ZgNUtQ1NMh6a7THEntL2LlgTr9nC2RpUe0zkd4GGMZsaoGawy1MPoAnO4JX1Gf nj05IxxmFNDXl+HkaqYim3xL9ue4ZChwTYDohJpZ2mNDd2//6Fgpv2JoxiyF/eqIqrOu v0Cc9Pgd0gW2njcb2jETsiRJ6xc+1NnbGer4r//sZptQP7/DqplX489iMSJObmi5pRrT fqUWccAJekPmPgDBmwJ1wK80bae1n+++p5b8R1hR14DzcvrrZiz/CsXfTYDyrubVrVT3 5tPdRdaXnCGzcWb598LOavYQu41NRaKx45HTXGBd5N+p4ZCdpg7OG1jnrPfxnR7PGSyF 0jtw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681335234; x=1683927234; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=SY5nIeldU4dNY8aUaniGcaCRMRkvsUf8dZlVHFIvTig=; b=MZ+0cszHSYfdoivToQLmU/5mbggg5sTIvKY2t6rEglQDzXpYOh90k367ehFZXLEyjj yLhuVFKvqtKh38oLsRuQwWSvjYAkqU/sdReZwh9aOiDUH/MaklUe9Uoa3lqJ1alTLDD+ SMmulO9g8xaKETwjK3Q+MASPkUlIudyhmcUTIts77IFwI6gbZ71YUn6KQFDstenCJbcX oViuNrl9Cv3GyCvJdEeF9FLY34xb/F7JGkYsmI/hO7b22TE4uUOChnCLttWWosYHrCji ZfnHyHWMr37Qcj8GykZfkZmoB/8FHWsCqfs0pkoV3pdffAdqD/EkHqOdBUtOql4ow6F+ KF1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9f8l2DNl9crlVnMAqlTKJVfT7xy8yjcR3ch2VopOgn0aJHSR3FQ 6CONTrLWQCeFdR4i4X0XuU7wQ49WkrFRryOQrqXOCgkXoIM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350bsqjI1qU3nOT9fsg1uV5qMp94Ge/xs9AUVwP2yKlI5Au9SGdYPDiwgIvENi2BciMQEFcEQy7R88uzH2lJ3D1U= X-Received: by 2002:a50:9b0e:0:b0:504:7684:a23c with SMTP id o14-20020a509b0e000000b005047684a23cmr58920edi.8.1681335233838; Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:33:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::535; envelope-from=yuancao85@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x535.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143257 Archived-At: > Hi Yuan, > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:48=E2=80=AFPM Yuan Cao wr= ote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I was wondering if anyone here has experience getting Emacs accepted in= to > > the approved software list in a corporate environment and is willing to > > answer a few questions or point me in the right direction. > I've done this, multiple times even :) > I'd be more than happy to share my experiences (and interested to hear > about others'). You are contact me off-list, if you wish, but I > suggest we should keep the conversation on-list given it is all the > same to you. On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 4:48=E2=80=AFPM John Yates = wrote: > > Sometimes no effort is required... > > Eight years ago, when I joined Mathworks, Emacs was already > the best supported editor for the simple reason that the head > of the tools group was a long time Emacs user and evangelist. > > Eight years later, little has changed. Too true! Unfortunately, I messed up! I requested Org Mode for Emacs since our version of Emacs appeared to be a stripped-down version of an older Emacs version -- ELPA and MELPA are blocked, and only a very few built-in packages showed up when I queried `M-x package-list-packages`. Org Mode was not one of the built-in packages that showed up -- although other similarly installed packages, as we shall see later, did show up. After completing the request, I started investigating the emacs installation and found the `org` directory in the `...\share\emacs\25.1\lisp` directory. When I tried to withdraw my request, I got hit with a list of questions I needed to ask the "vendor" to clarify for OrgMode and Emacs. I am not sure who I can ask, and the questions feel odd for Emacs. The inquiry is: "[...] confirm whether any advanced algorithms, predictive analytics, dynamic components, machine learning, or artificial intelligence are used within this product, and whether any part of the input or output process involves any of these techniques. Examples of non-traditional modeling capabilities include but are not limited to: auto-complete or suggested text functionalities; optical character recognition (OCR) or other image recognition and processing; transcription, translation, speech-to-text or text-to-speech; search engines; virtual assistants; and other assistive technologies." I guess I am a little new to this process, so I might be overreacting. I just want to make sure that Emacs isn't taken away. This is a little embarrassing, but I hope this can help someone else avoid being in the same situation. Best Regards, Yuan