From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Major and minor modes Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 11:09:18 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5202e0d6-4476-4e97-a5cb-f1ee66d562c3@default> <366AD726-AE6A-4138-909E-DCA3C9F2B203@gmail.com> <83y3su3axp.fsf@gnu.org> <41AE1409-13B6-404F-BE28-FE43D482360B@gmail.com> <83bmpp2svz.fsf@gnu.org> <1750a088-5dfd-4aba-8d45-1e013f587ed7@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1497579599 14067 195.159.176.226 (16 Jun 2017 02:19:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 02:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 16 04:19:48 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dLgrT-00031K-Gq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jun 2017 04:19:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56843 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dLgrY-0000s6-RV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:19:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dLgr7-0000pA-Hm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:19:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dLgr6-0003Sb-JR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:19:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg0-x244.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c05::244]:32984) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dLgr1-0003LU-Qz; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg0-x244.google.com with SMTP id a70so3453834pge.0; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 19:19:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=j7e3bUNRUDAKq0Msrc4OiRrAKF4UCY4hmZ9IhalAbws=; b=GdhCWAzMgKdsLGMEgKPI7+B0cTNj577JFJXzzgYZkJo5iHQjvnSz95ze6abc0Qj4xF hikoBdOCNXaTYukEWlP3cgh8xpOmbLSp8RpH14uvwBEplXYI8ESDGlTl54BEHh+5jfzq L3ZiL8a6YDbQtMsyCJwYyWG4lFXvXlcd4gy5NiGwbaKqpW+qx/5y5jRS/AVTaom+pnQe XyUIQ1XPZXEQCkGKIlF2m3jKaWm+Ef2sA6gzOaUD9NBoPcEGT5svhntLOWl4nuVGJOb/ Z+S5RU+jNb5kNe971lvbznEmYJX2YZpYcStYU0mr6guDGhdDfQAGR6DGvfUkC4nNwMrj UatQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=j7e3bUNRUDAKq0Msrc4OiRrAKF4UCY4hmZ9IhalAbws=; b=RwtfTMhku/PzbHy1aFszgskZVvbAsYAiTxx1ANCIC/XA9qTdFddkT8fpVfhM7T5P80 dMnMucKH/tL+hDGHIc2QoKeYHOH86WxoEHzvy5oAO7UoLlQRnmKjjxsz9DAjbYmlSCfJ soRCagBdtsir4g6owxyXuOyWP3wzwdj2u7DDAii+fxYZOMakLAr9zy3DEPkhGF+uNcOH XVEu/uzIkWfx2N8LwUzfdVOj74qLX6DNekUduCV3h91xFtdgKstGN8wBCHfjfTf8f6bM fB7fne271yRwrD4w6FdfA7v/1NBfolVx+SkF7EIJZCkWTI1Gk8jf/VzBVKzH2k90AGrp +/Lg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOx3Emr5fuUO2wDjUAe0w5ffs5PEl0Q/OYl9Zi2VGauWS4fcW5nR XeeUmFySbwp4ng== X-Received: by 10.84.136.135 with SMTP id 7mr9757733pll.98.1497579557468; Thu, 15 Jun 2017 19:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.251.100.27] ([210.160.37.46]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t82sm991213pfe.88.2017.06.15.19.19.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Jun 2017 19:19:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <1750a088-5dfd-4aba-8d45-1e013f587ed7@default> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::244 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113479 Archived-At: >> IOW, a book requires somewhat different considerations wrt its >> sectioning than an on-line version of the manual. >>=20 >>> That discrepancy is a bit weird. >>=20 >> Is it still weird? Yes, and I have the exact same opinion as Drew on this one. There are no logical reasons why a part of the manual would be a chapter = on its own in one version and a sub chapter in a different version. Shall we move this discussion to emacs-devel ? > But section numbers, like section names, are not just content. > They are navigational. They are used for reference, including > as was the case in this thread: someone pointing to a particular > section by name or number. >=20 > [Yes, a _link_ to a section in an online manual is often > preferable to such a purely textual representation. But that > is not a reason why the section numbers or names should differ.] >=20 > As with everything, there might be exceptions. But what was > shown here does not seem like a good candidate for being an > exception. Jean-Christophe=