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>=20 > The question is meaningless because it's premise is wrong: Elisp can > be compiled as well. >=20 I=E2=80=99m pretty sure Elisp can=E2=80=99t compile down to raw machine code= (like JIT) in current infrastructure. If you=E2=80=99re saying about compil= ing to bytecode, you=E2=80=99re losing his/her points. Elisp bytecode is terribly slow :-( >=20 > Stefan >=20