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From: Ian Eure <ian@digg.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs mode line suggestions
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:12:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C3F637C4-DE20-4341-88C7-B70DC0AA5924@digg.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gfpoap$iqj$3@news.motzarella.org>

On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Richard Riley wrote:

> Ian Eure <ian@digg.com> writes:
>>
>> My objection is to the idea that you don't want star buffers in the
>> list. These are also used for interaction with external processes:
>> *ssh: host*, *SQL: foo*, *Twit-recent*, *compilation*, *shell*,
>> *Python*. It seems ill advised to exclude those from the list.
>
> The kind of user that might want to see them is clued in enough to  
> use a
> prefix or customise their setup accordingly.
>
That's not the point. A behavior is being suggested which has a  
serious usability negative. Your argument cuts both ways; anyone who  
might use the existing mechanism surely is clued in enough to know how  
to use it, so why bother changing it, either?

Consider:

1. Edit stuff.
2. Create a *shell* buffer, do work in the shell.
3. Switch back to editing.
4. Try to go back to the shell - but wait, it's gone! What happened?

It's equally confusing. If you want to improve things, great, but  
replacing one crappy behavior with a different crappy behavior is a  
waste.


> I must say I agree with Xah and the "well thats the way its always  
> been"
> kind of reply is not constructive in the slightest.
>
Did you actually read my reply? Because I criticized the proposal on  
it's merits, and never said anything remotely like that.

  - Ian.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-16 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.215.1226562978.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-14 23:18 ` emacs mode line suggestions Xah
2008-11-15  1:02   ` xahlee
2008-11-15  9:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <mailman.423.1226741023.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16  1:54     ` Xah
2008-11-16 18:12       ` Ian Eure
2008-11-18  9:39         ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-11-18 23:25           ` Xavier Maillard
     [not found]       ` <mailman.518.1226859137.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 18:20         ` Richard Riley
2008-11-16 23:12           ` Ian Eure [this message]
2008-11-17  8:37             ` Paul R
2008-11-17 15:45               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]               ` <mailman.604.1226937124.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-17 16:11                 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-17 18:53                   ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 19:10                     ` Richard Riley
2008-11-17 19:57                       ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 20:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.621.1226951870.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-17 21:42                         ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18  0:55                           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.641.1226969742.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-18  1:08                             ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18  2:55                               ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 23:37               ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-18  7:52                 ` Paul R
2008-11-18 13:48                   ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]           ` <mailman.543.1226877138.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 23:35             ` Richard Riley
2008-11-16 22:45         ` Xah
2008-11-16 21:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <mailman.536.1226871605.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 23:17         ` Xah
2008-11-17 20:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-17 23:46             ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-18  0:31               ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-18  9:32               ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-11-18  9:58                 ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]             ` <mailman.633.1226964831.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-18  9:46               ` Fabrice Niessen
     [not found]           ` <mailman.623.1226954396.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-17 22:09             ` Xah
2008-11-18  2:33               ` B. T. Raven
2008-11-18  3:24                 ` Xah
2008-11-18  4:58                   ` B. T. Raven
2008-11-18  6:54                     ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18  4:11               ` Eli Zaretskii

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