From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francis Belliveau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 11:22:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692@mail.yahoo.com> <83tuqnkzff.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.20.0.2.21\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24393"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 08 21:36:50 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9DH6-0006Cx-JN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 21:36:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58276 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9DH4-0000wd-JL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 15:36:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l99It-0005ry-Fk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 11:22:24 -0500 Original-Received: from resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net ([2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:35]:60702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l99Ik-0007CD-Du for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 11:22:17 -0500 Original-Received: from resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.112]) by resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id 97kblVkLYf72J99Idl2AfD; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:22:07 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=20190202a; t=1612801327; bh=GKGL0E6DmFBFENkhfw9TCydjTbbwTIDQ75the9h+C6E=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date: Message-Id; b=mw/6i/hOXbamDb9p7TNG58Q+FWiHcQ4iveAvlhmxsUMRa3XJQovimemysYv0WsfjG vbpRO56RPxPRcfiwGH5mkeu8rjU+4LYH3tTjizpOLaxclNMePabynzMSScGbp/dwfk re7vz3+7WQVW9mKr7s1facC+Y9bH+omJwhaMAHWPP30aK+Sih/nKmlOK/jmwuS8TXP ojeXOcyp1htyu6jTBFbxenMkBd4z/DKyPeFsAq9vD9DnnJUvFINOfoY15JqVLzEJG+ aD7oa2hH8gk1zemv4IkIVzyn4CBNVH/ODKBNayQgMJmNX68GrcO931Hdx7L58+oQPI VtkPEwjjYPGPg== Original-Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([73.119.168.97]) by resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id 99Ials8Zhn6ym99IclRigc; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 16:22:07 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrheefgdekhecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucevohhmtggrshhtqdftvghsihdpqfgfvfdppffquffrtefokffrnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecumhhishhsihhnghcuvffquchfihgvlhguucdlfedtmdenucfjughrpefhtgfgggfuffgjfhfkofesthhqmhdthhdtvdenucfhrhhomhephfhrrghntghishcuuegvlhhlihhvvggruhcuoehfrdgsvghllhhivhgvrghusegtohhmtggrshhtrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefhteehlefhteevtedvheffvdekffdvvefghfegteegleeuleelkedvvdektedvheenucfkphepjeefrdduudelrdduieekrdeljeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegludelvddrudeikedruddruddthegnpdhinhgvthepjeefrdduudelrdduieekrdeljedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehfrdgsvghllhhivhgvrghusegtohhmtggrshhtrdhnvghtpdhrtghpthhtohephhgvlhhpqdhgnhhuqdgvmhgrtghssehgnhhurdhorhhg X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=30.00;st=legit In-Reply-To: <83tuqnkzff.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.20.0.2.21) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:35; envelope-from=f.belliveau@comcast.net; helo=resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MISSING_HEADERS=1.021, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127662 Archived-At: It would be nice for standard distro to not include a c-z binding, since = it already exists on a key-sequence binding. I have remapped c-z to my own key-map, but when I must use emacs without = my personal bindings, continually get messed up by accidental = "suspend". It is certainly a dangerous function to have mapped to such an easy key = to hit, and my fingers are trained to hit that key a lot for other = reasons.=20 I can see where it was once very useful, but much less so in this day of = GUI's. Fran > On Feb 7, 2021, at 22:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 23:29:14 +0000 (UTC) >> From: S Boucher via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor = >>=20 >> I would suggest:1) move suspend-frame to "C-c C-z" (that is still a = quick shortcut) >=20 > It is already on "C-x C-z". >=20