From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Perry Smith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: white is #e5e5e5 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:12:04 -0600 Message-ID: References: <07807786-5346-4F06-8FAE-EF2BF97B0460@gmail.com> <55297C51-B5E1-4ED3-B87D-5F0F1770D168@freelon.org> <493AD3CD-4BA8-4FB7-B32F-5CC82834B424@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--224055394 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295910984 27555 80.91.229.12 (24 Jan 2011 23:16:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Warren Harris Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 25 00:16:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PhVdx-00089H-Rn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:16:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50379 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PhVdx-0005Iv-8l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:16:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40377 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PhVZw-0003U0-S0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:12:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PhVZv-0004mQ-C1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:12:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com ([209.85.216.176]:57795) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PhVZv-0004m1-7S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:12:07 -0500 Original-Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so4756606qyk.0 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:12:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=io7ZAMrUBfMEoW/fw+ZYUZO8MI9KuTxJxdJQBAflZec=; b=m/jTIojp6+IqNC9lmrVzPIJvGff0qOSIXVnEDtwPtfO6juJ4BYrrjry4DyrB7nUk/w USCEFtuX/Vp8qNERBgJ28Q2QFtwMsUKEhdoO1+1ZC09PKbYRpzHP2TOrKW7PiCgTLZz/ s8omcDnCsWrcgk31Ex+mVfEjKRS94Zvh6PURs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=AFA2k0hvf3Qlh4zvbfRwoJWjbb++438771gW/F5nSGv+H6fSYc/qhSP4fbKebDWLh9 SxmqwMQdKuNqYsKHHRz4WgjZnmPu3pQtKaYU7/czKuTxerv/s0Uv5CYeZkBcKdOhG8dD kOo+qD5dqhCOE1pLrTXhWg7QEzGD2AWFiwE8g= Original-Received: by 10.224.19.129 with SMTP id a1mr4768280qab.154.1295910726699; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:12:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from newtoy.austin.ibm.com ([32.97.110.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h20sm9737714qck.24.2011.01.24.15.12.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:12:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:78724 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-3--224055394 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Warren Harris wrote: >=20 > On Jan 24, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Perry Smith wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Warren Harris wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Perry Smith wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I wish I could play with it and see what you are talking about and = experiment around some. >>>>=20 >>>> What is TERM set to? You might be able to set it do something more = fitting to get better colors. >>>=20 >>> TERM is set to xterm-color. >>=20 >> I'm trying to recreate this as close as I can... your original post = said you do >>=20 >> "emacsclient -nw" >>=20 >> but that would tie back to an existing emacs (I think). Is that part = correct? >=20 > Yes. I previously ran emacs --daemon. >>=20 >> Also, what version of emacs is on Ubuntu? (And just for curiosity, = what version >> do you have on your Mac? >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of = 2010-11-23 on yellow, modified by Debian =20 I telnet'ed to a Unix system and then back to my laptop (Mac). Started Emacs -nw and it came up in the terminal. I get the same list for list-color-display that you got. I have a black menu with white text at the top. My mode lines are black with white. My normal text is black on white background. The *scratch* butter starts with a "red" messages on white background. All of these are muted slightly... the red is not full on and the write is very slightly grey. But it sounds like your grey is darker. My guess is the terminfo on Ubuntu is not exactly compatible with Mac's Terminal.app... but that seems rather unlikely. My second guess is Ubuntu has modified emacs in this area but that also seems unlikely. I don't know enough about how the colors and faces all interact or how to customize them. Hopefully someone else on this list will pipe up. You might try not using the daemon approach and, in particular, try starting without using your init file. Perhaps there is something in there that is confusing things. Sorry I can't be more help. Perry --Apple-Mail-3--224055394 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On Jan 24, = 2011, at 2:32 PM, Perry Smith wrote:


On Jan 24, 2011, = at 3:11 PM, Warren Harris wrote:


On Jan 24, 2011, = at 1:03 PM, Perry Smith wrote:

I wish I could play with it and = see what you are talking about and experiment around some.

What = is TERM set to?  You might be able to set it do something more = fitting to get better colors.

TERM = is set to xterm-color.

I'm trying = to recreate this as close as I can... your original post said you = do

"emacsclient = -nw"

but that would tie back to an existing = emacs (I think).  Is that part = correct?

Yes. I previously ran = emacs --daemon.

Also, what version of emacs is on Ubuntu? =  (And just for curiosity, what version
do you have on = your = Mac?


GNU = Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2010-11-23 on = yellow, modified by Debian =  

I telnet'ed to a = Unix system and then back to my laptop (Mac).
Started Emacs = -nw and it came up in the terminal.

I get the = same list for list-color-display that you got.  I have = a
black menu with white text at the top.  My mode lines = are black with
white.  My normal text is black on white = background.  The *scratch*
butter starts with a "red" = messages on white background.

All of these are = muted slightly... the red is not full on and the
write is very = slightly grey.  But it sounds like your grey is = darker.

My guess is the terminfo on Ubuntu is = not exactly compatible with
Mac's Terminal.app... but that = seems rather unlikely.

My second guess is = Ubuntu has modified emacs in this area but that
also seems = unlikely.

I don't know enough about how the = colors and faces all interact or how
to customize them. =  Hopefully someone else on this list will pipe = up.

You might try not using the = daemon approach and, in particular, try
starting without using = your init file.  Perhaps there is something
in there that = is confusing things.

Sorry I can't be more = help.

Perry

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