From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: non word abbrevs Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 12:24:27 +0900 Message-ID: References: <2F7AC7B8-48AA-4BF3-B5AA-A4141F248109@traduction-libre.org> <4097001A-F60D-4712-B828-EA778BFCF56E@traduction-libre.org> <2067AA83-8EC0-4429-9189-9E3CCCFD06BB@traduction-libre.org> <976C9A57-FA22-4E47-AF16-C1B20C66E451@traduction-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15441"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 07 04:25:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mjYo3-0003sB-3T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2021 04:25:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45518 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjYny-0000wJ-2S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 23:25:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46348) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjYnU-0000w1-Dz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 23:24:44 -0400 Original-Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:39167) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mjYnR-0001uZ-0N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Nov 2021 23:24:43 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: lists@traduction-libre.org) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42054FF804; Sun, 7 Nov 2021 03:24:34 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.199; envelope-from=lists@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay9-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:134432 Archived-At: > On Nov 7, 2021, at 12:15, Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU = Emacs text editor wrote: > Not completely: the original motivation for adding that `:regexp` > keyword was to handle abbrevs of the form "`foo" as well as others of > the form "foo/bar" ;-) And the overall feature seems severely under-documented... Honestly, I = barely understood your explanations... Maybe expecting to have abbrevs work way was a mistake, but it does not = seem possible to have (easy...) arbitrary string expansion in = out-of-the-box-emacs without abbrevs. Would there be another more idiomatic way ? I know about assigning key shortcuts to arbitrary string insertion, but = that needlessly fills the keymaps with shortcuts that could be put to = better use *and* the combination would be longer to enter than a normal = abbrev... >=20 >>> You might want to `M-x report-emacs-bug` and request that this >>> constraint be made more flexible. >> I will. Thank you again. >=20 > In the mean time, you might be able to implement > a `post-self-insert-hook` which runs expands your abbrevs. Christmas in November ? :-) > You could start with something like: >=20 > (add-hook 'post-self-insert-hook #'my-expand-arrow-abbrevs) > (defun my-expand-arrow-abbrevs () > (if (memq (char-before) '(?=3D ?< ?-)) > (expand-abbrev))) I'll try that and will report. Thank you ! --=20 Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune https://mac4translators.blogspot.com https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/