From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitri.Minaev@britishcouncil.ru Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Off-topic: Plain text, XML or LaTex? Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:37:10 +0400 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056429561 7016 80.91.224.249 (24 Jun 2003 04:39:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 04:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 24 06:39:17 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19UfaH-0001oP-00 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 06:39:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19UfZF-0004Iy-Ku for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:38:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19UfYl-00044K-Ih for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19UfYc-0003k3-8C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:37:26 -0400 Original-Received: from imail20.gs2.britishcouncil.org ([217.205.230.29]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19UfYX-0003WH-3r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rus2nt01.ru.britishcouncil.org (unverified) by imail20.gs2.britishcouncil.org ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 05:35:43 +0100 Original-Received: by rus2.ru.britishcouncil.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:37:11 +0400 Original-To: oonplnhd02@sneakemail.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:11160 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:11160 Hello, Mac, I'd say that it all depends on whether you can afford spending some time tuning the XML tools to your needs. If yes, XML may be usable. Emacs is good in editing XML (just as good as it is in editing anything else :) , there are some XSL processors (like xsltproc) and XSL:FO formatters (PassiveTeX or Apache FOP) of acceptable quality. Anyway, you'll have either to choose some established standard (TEI or DocBook) or to write your own XSL transformation from your own DTD to XSL:FO, which means more time spent on tweaking the xsl files and writing shell scripts. The good side of XML is, of course, in XSL. The bad one is that it's still far from being a ripe standard and some time will pass before, e.g., FO-formatters will fully comply with the current standard of XSL:FO. See "XML, a new start for the Web" (http://tex.loria.fr/xml-etc/goossens-xml2000.pdf) by M.Goossens and "PassiveTeX: from XML to PDF" (http://home.cern.ch/goossens/goossensrahtz.ps.gz) by M.Goossens and S.Rahtz. PS: Me, I prefer plain text on paper ;) I don't trust computers, you can never know with 'em... -- With best regards, Dmitri Minaev > -----Original Message----- > From: Mac [mailto:oonplnhd02@sneakemail.com] > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:22 PM > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Off-topic: Plain text, XML or LaTex? > > > > I apologize for this off-topic posting. But I really like to know how > you fellow Emacsien feal about his. > > I like plain text, and have for a long time used outline-mode to write > both my own private notes as well as draft documents. I have also for > a long time been thinking about moving to LaTex so that I also can > produce my final documents in Emacs as well. > > Now I have an opportunity to move to XML instead. So I would > appreciate your thoughts about this. > > How can I get up-to speed with writing XML inside Emacs? Is it worth > it, or should I stick with plain-ol-text? Any pointers to tutorials, > books etc is appreciated. > > Perhaps you have a completely different setup that you are willing to > share with me? > > /mac > > One reason for liking plain text is it's portability (but so are eg > .pdf these days). Another is version control, I'm a heavy user of cvs > (pcl-cvs is *great*). > > _______________________________________________ > Help-gnu-emacs mailing list > Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs >