From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs? Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:57:41 -0700 Message-ID: <B324B76B0A264B02B8EE6917D8A5E6E6@us.oracle.com> References: <CACeWA3iaQXuz6uv7ejA2O8Z0CLS2VfTbEBtMmEhAxyLi3EtwRg@mail.gmail.com><CAAuthdRKjbaMnoNUgqA-o0n2Y-AN3ZO-rgq5ymVBy0Gb4gM-eQ@mail.gmail.com><87li82icgp.fsf@nowhere.org><alpine.DEB.2.02.1304282326100.3673@james-System-Product-Name><871u9t7te9.fsf@nowhere.org><mailman.24838.1367252519.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org><icsj29f45u.fsf@home.home><mailman.24891.1367329755.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org><icli80dmbb.fsf@home.home><mailman.24910.1367346251.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> <ictxmndfz6.fsf@home.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367351897 24806 80.91.229.3 (30 Apr 2013 19:58:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:58:17 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Dan Espen'" <despen@verizon.net>, <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 30 21:58:15 2013 Return-path: <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1UXGgl-0004js-8O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:58:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48248 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1UXGgl-0005rv-06 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:58:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45565) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@oracle.com>) id 1UXGgV-0005rk-Oq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:58:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@oracle.com>) id 1UXGgR-00055r-7i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:57:55 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:22452) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <drew.adams@oracle.com>) id 1UXGgR-00055l-0Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r3UJvmFS016455 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:57:49 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3UJvljF028800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:57:48 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3UJvlwh007422; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:57:47 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.236.42) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:57:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac5F0xouFcN9GOsIR0y+wMcyXkj4gwACQyiw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: <ictxmndfz6.fsf@home.home> X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/help-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90436 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/90436> > My problem with customize is finding what I want. > Given customize-face then mode-line I'm good. > Starting thru the menubar, I get totally lost. Good point. Customize is not much of a browser. To find things in Customize I take advantage of Icicles. But you can get almost as much help in this case from `M-x customize-apropos-faces RET mode-line RET'.