Xemacs error

Xemacs error

[Julian, Phillip]

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I am getting an Xemacs error when it starts up.  I placed Xemacs in a
non-standard location, and setup some environment variables.  It seems
to know where HOME is.  I have also unloaded the packages into a
sub-directory where the EXE file resides.  I placed binaries in the
directory - all are version 21.4.19.  I did not install using the Xemacs
installation tool, because security measures at the bank (Bank of
America) prevent such an installation.  I also tried to find information
at xemacs.org regarding the correct directory structure and any Windows
registry entries that I may need to set - to no avail.  My help desk
said that I should email you.

 

I want to customize Xemacs further for the ess package, so I need to get
this working to use it effectively.

 

Xemacs seems to work - I can edit files OK.  But the graphic menu at the
top looks scrunched-up like this, which is another tell-tale error:

 

 

 

 

Here is the error, which appears in a DOS window:

 

WARNING:  Couldn't find an obvious default for the root of the XEmacs
hierarchy.

WARNING:  Couldn't find obvious defaults for:

load-path

doc-directory

data-directory

exec-directory

lisp-directory

Perhaps some directories don't exist, or the XEmacs executable,

C:\Documents and Settings\NBKLUVA\My Documents\My
Programs\xemacs-21.4.19\xemacs.exe

is in a strange place?

 

 

Can you please tell me how to fix this?

 

Thanks,

 

Phillip Julian

TOLA and SASO Channel Execution

Direct Response & Analytical Marketing

980-307-0507

 

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Re: Xemacs error

[Deniz Dogan]

2010/8/5 Julian, Phillip <phillip.julian@bankofamerica.com>
> I am getting an Xemacs error when it starts up.  I placed Xemacs in a non-standard location, and setup some environment variables.  It seems to know where HOME is.  I have also unloaded the packages into a sub-directory where the EXE file resides.  I placed binaries in the directory – all are version 21.4.19.  I did not install using the Xemacs installation tool, because security measures at the bank (Bank of America) prevent such an installation.  I also tried to find information at xemacs.org regarding the correct directory structure and any Windows registry entries that I may need to set – to no avail.  My help desk said that I should email you.
>
> I want to customize Xemacs further for the ess package, so I need to get this working to use it effectively.
>
> Xemacs seems to work – I can edit files OK.  But the graphic menu at the top looks scrunched-up like this, which is another tell-tale error:
>
> Here is the error, which appears in a DOS window:
>
> WARNING:  Couldn't find an obvious default for the root of the XEmacs hierarchy.
> WARNING:  Couldn't find obvious defaults for:
> load-path
> doc-directory
> data-directory
> exec-directory
> lisp-directory
> Perhaps some directories don't exist, or the XEmacs executable,
> C:\Documents and Settings\NBKLUVA\My Documents\My Programs\xemacs-21.4.19\xemacs.exe
> is in a strange place?
>

Hi, Phillip

This mailing list discusses GNU Emacs, not XEmacs. They are two
different programs and the general opinion nowadays seems to be
that XEmacs is legacy and few use it.

While you might get answers on this list, my guess is that your
best bet is to contact one of the lists that are listed here:
http://www.xemacs.org/Lists/index.html

You should also note that your version of XEmacs is very old. When it
was released Internet Explorer 6 was the norm. Have you tried a newer
version? Maybe you should try GNU Emacs instead? ;) Here is a link to
the latest stable Windows build of GNU Emacs:
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-23.2-bin-i386.zip
GNU Emacs does not use an installation tool of any kind, simply
unpack it and run bin\runemacs.exe.

Good luck,
Deniz Dogan

Re: Xemacs error

[Peter Dyballa]

>> I did not install using the Xemacs installation tool, because  
>> security measures at the bank (Bank of America) prevent such an  
>> installation.


Are you not allowed to use the installation tool or are you not  
allowed to install XEmacs in the standard places? If you can use the  
installer you might be able to customise/reset the installation place...

The internal structure of directories in XEmacs should look like this  
(for powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0 hard- and software, i.e., Apple Macs):

	bin
	lib
	lib/xemacs
	lib/xemacs/site-lisp
	lib/xemacs/site-modules
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/custom
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/custom/example-themes
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/eos
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/idd
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/photos
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/sparcworks
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/tests
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/tests/external-widget
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/toolbar
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode/ibm
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode/mule-ucs
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode/other
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode/unicode-consortium
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/info
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/lisp
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/lisp/mule
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/lisp/term
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0/include
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0/include/m
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0/include/s
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0/modules

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Greetings

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People say that if you play Microsoft CD's backwards, you hear satanic  
things, but that's nothing, because if you play them forwards, they  
install MS Windows.

RE: Xemacs error

[Julian, Phillip]

Pete,

Thanks for your help.

When all the Xemacs files are in the correct location, everything works.

I had Xemacs on my personal laptop, so I made the business laptop have
files in the same relative place, which solved all my problems.

Using the Xemacs Installer with a custom directory sounds like a great
idea.  However, changes were made to the Windows registry on Vista, and
I don't think the bank would allow that.

I will tell them about my solution, and that should make it easier for
other folks here that want a good editor program.

Thanks,

Phillip Julian
TOLA and SASO Channel Execution
Direct Response & Analytical Marketing
980-307-0507


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE [mailto:Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE] 
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 5:08 AM
To: Julian, Phillip
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org list
Subject: Re: Xemacs error



>> I did not install using the Xemacs installation tool, because 
>> security measures at the bank (Bank of America) prevent such an 
>> installation.


Are you not allowed to use the installation tool or are you not allowed
to install XEmacs in the standard places? If you can use the installer
you might be able to customise/reset the installation place...

The internal structure of directories in XEmacs should look like this
(for powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0 hard- and software, i.e., Apple Macs):

	bin
	lib
	lib/xemacs
	lib/xemacs/site-lisp
	lib/xemacs/site-modules
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/custom
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/custom/example-themes
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/eos
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/idd
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/photos
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/sparcworks
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/tests
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/tests/external-widget
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/toolbar
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode/ibm
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode/mule-ucs
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode/other
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/etc/unicode/unicode-consortium
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/info
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/lisp
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/lisp/mule
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/lisp/term
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0/include
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0/include/m
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0/include/s
	lib/xemacs-21.5-b28/powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0/modules

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Greetings

   Pete

People say that if you play Microsoft CD's backwards, you hear satanic
things, but that's nothing, because if you play them forwards, they
install MS Windows.

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Re: Xemacs error

[David Kastrup]

Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com> writes:

> This mailing list discusses GNU Emacs, not XEmacs. They are two
> different programs and the general opinion nowadays seems to be
> that XEmacs is legacy and few use it.

Actually, nowadays that's the general opinion about Emacs as well.

-- 
David Kastrup