From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arthur Miller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 19:30:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20201126182734.GA5175@tuxteam.de> <54331aa0-6a9a-4809-9f2d-88deee31558b@default> <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15268"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Christopher Dimech , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 19:32:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiiXg-0003rw-UX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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envelope-from=arthur.miller@live.com; helo=EUR04-VI1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125678 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: > * Arthur Miller [2020-11-27 19:43]: >> I learned it through hacking init file, and I am not good at Emacs >> internals, I don't have time to sitt hours and go through all >> if-defs and thousands of lines of lisp. I wish I did. But when I >> don't know how to do something, I ask, and if they tell me I don't >> understand it or have missed it, I don't tell them they manual sux >> or code is horribly structured. Sometimes error is in our selves, in >> this case, Dimech is probably not used to read the technical manuals >> and that's not more. > > I was asking different type of questions on #emacs IRC back in 2016, > and back then I did not know hot to look into references to get myself > Emacs insights. When one does not know where to look to there can be > bunch of references but one cannot find it. Today I have different > types of questions. There are progress stages for Emacs users. > > I can remember `info' and `man' from 1999 and 2000, I had confusion > and did not understand why two systems. There was one time before that > where I was learning GNU/Linux exclusively from books. At the time I > did not know that `info' or `man' exists on system. I remember myself too wondering why man and info back than. I never had luxury of learning GNU/Linux from the books; I was too poor to invest in those :-). I just looked into how things were done and was experimenting and trying to get them do what I want them to do. If you look at my emacs questions; I am still doing so :-) > There are various stages that users pass through until they get > it. Indeed; so is with everything in life.