From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Changing default dvi viewer. Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:38:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20080205170541.675151BC01F@ufc.univ-fcomte.fr> <20080207112820.GA6553@univ-fcomte.fr> <1F9F9377-2D8A-4635-A2DB-3F56871B087A@Web.DE> <20080207153042.GC6571@univ-fcomte.fr> <868AB564-4DEC-4458-B3EB-FEEB6590222F@Web.DE> <20080207162645.GA7411@univ-fcomte.fr> <47acb8f8$0$4991$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202550240 764 80.91.229.12 (9 Feb 2008 09:44:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 09:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: angeli@caeruleus.net Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 09 10:44:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JNmFx-0000Ry-CT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:44:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNmFT-0001Ev-O0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:43:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNmAj-0007bt-Pp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:38:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNmAi-0007al-Gb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:38:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNmAh-0007aX-VL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:38:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de ([217.72.192.227]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNmAh-0003UC-FG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:38:55 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01271D008D48; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:38:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [195.4.204.154] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1JNmAg-0000Ox-00; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:38:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <47acb8f8$0$4991$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/KRodUJ01Q+L+RmZ5i3/P6SeVfVKRCzw3U2d04 Ryt35oR1X/U3T75ZveHkKSveFwI2aQ9dKXCGr/4qhRVf5ThYD+ QfPVZiRJobRfnCErKOoA== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:51365 Archived-At: Am 08.02.2008 um 21:18 schrieb Ralf Angeli: > This is a very bad idea since you will have to check if something > changed in texdoc every time the TeX distribution is updated unless =20= > you > don't mind missing new features and bug fixes or dealing with =20 > potential > incompatibilities. This isn't such a big issue. TeX Live updates happen once in two =20 years, before 2006 it was once per year. We're already in the middle =20 of February and no TeX Live 2008 DVD has been announced yet. I had to =20= update my texdoc copy in four years once (I have saved the elder =20 version in ~/bin, last change: a few days before summer 2007 began). > > In addition you lose the capability of passing the paper size to the > viewer. So this is an exceptionally bad suggestion for the case at =20= > hand > where a DVI viewer is being dealt with. The latter is true, and I did not emphasise enough that David should =20 only change one xdvi entry with texdoc (it is so obvious to me), the =20 one that uses his default paper size. This is my fault! Next time =20 I'll try to do a better job. This xdvi incapability can be a much smaller problem when TeX users =20 would understand that they are using pdfTeX, and that the DVI output =20 is necessary only in just a few cases with use of special packages, =20 mostly related with PostScript graphics. When TeX users would allow =20 pdfTeX to directly create PDF, then the PDF viewer would not need to =20 be told the paper size or its direction, because this is recorded in =20 the PDF file, and then a dozen of different xdvi calls would not be =20 necessary. Anyway, once the error of changing too much was done, the original =20 setup can easily be re-established by just commenting the =20 customisation. Now one is offered another chance to make just the =20 necessary changes, and after saving this, one can look at both =20 customisation expressions and try to find an optimum. And for this =20 one can "expand" the one-liners to multi-liners to see which =20 expression matches which case. -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete Increase the size of your bike by at least *five* inches!