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[108.7.198.3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c13-20020a0ce7cd000000b00653559e065asm2309248qvo.99.2023.09.03.13.54.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Sep 2023 13:54:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6) Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f33; envelope-from=kab@conundrums.ca; helo=mail-qv1-xf33.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145065 Archived-At: I'm trying to use emacs (29.1-1, also 28.2 and 28.1-4) on MacOS to edit = files on a remote machine via VPN and sshfs. (Mac-compatible emacs obtained = from https://emacsformacosx.com/builds.) Using emacs to read or write such = files takes a very long time, like 2-3 minutes. These are not large files. = Obviously this very usable. It seems like the VPN is connected to the problem, since I don't see = such a delay when reading and writing files accessed via sshfs on a remote = machine that doesn't need VPN for access. The network performance over VPN isn't amazing, but by itself it's = nowhere near bad enough to account for what I'm seeing with emacs. And I don't = see anything like that slowdown with other applications (including Aquamacs, = a mac port of emacs 25). Searching the web finds various similar sounding complaints of various vintages, but I'm not finding anything that matches what I'm seeing and = has a solution. Any suggestions? I'd really like to switch to a recent version of emacs = (I've been using Aquamacs, but it's been stuck on emacs 25 for a long time). = But this problem makes that impossible for one of my main uses.