From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans BKK Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Learning "my emacs" from the start (was: Generating a listing of all symbols) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9c8cbdb3-abe9-4aae-af60-761d0c042c67@googlegroups.com> References: <3defe928-5d2e-4d3b-bc26-f595f275f840@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398014130 10125 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2014 17:15:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:15:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 20 19:15:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WbvKq-0001zY-RR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:15:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46234 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbvKq-0002Y3-9m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:15:20 -0400 X-Received: by 10.182.254.10 with SMTP id ae10mr16878764obd.43.1398013963998; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:12:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.246.3 with SMTP id xs3mr27414obc.3.1398013963739; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!c1no1167885igq.0!news-out.google.com!gi6ni545igc.0!nntp.google.com!l13no9017084iga.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: <3defe928-5d2e-4d3b-bc26-f595f275f840@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2602:306:334f:a5e0:55b2:68aa:bed5:d0e7; posting-account=IUdGewoAAACF9WtA3i8stuVyXNk2FqaH Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2602:306:334f:a5e0:55b2:68aa:bed5:d0e7 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:12:43 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205003 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97269 Archived-At: I haven't the bandwidth to respond to all the comments, and don't want to w= aste yours either, but thanks to all for the valuable advice. Just to clarify, I'm not planning on doing all my learning by just explorin= g my list of functions etc. I'm looking at the A-B diff's more so than the = whole collection, the idea is to be able to see in one place what **changes= ** these "better default" packages make to the vanilla settings, and to ena= ble me to systematically compare them to each other.=20 "Test-driving" them and trying to understand their source code are of cours= e also part of the process. My goal isn't to flatten the "usage" learning curve, but to help me climb t= he "customizing" one faster - and the process of putting code together and = diving into emacs' internals is all part of that. I also didn't mean to put= so much focus on the keybindings issue, just that's why I'm holding off on= the hands-on usage for the moment until I've got a good set in mind, check= ing out the various key popular packages bundled in these "out of the box" = starter kits is also part of the project.