From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Bind right shift and TAB won't work Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 08:37:06 -0700 Message-ID: <9B93EEC342154708BDB892E70724B341@us.oracle.com> References: <87k3n5dw7z.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87obcgy8gw.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368373058 4770 80.91.229.3 (12 May 2013 15:37:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 15:37:38 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Emanuel Berg'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 12 17:37:38 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UbYLB-0005bL-1v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 17:37:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34058 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbYLA-0002Ep-IZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 11:37:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53004) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbYKw-0002Ee-Fv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 11:37:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbYKt-00009q-2l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 11:37:22 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:24866) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UbYKs-00009S-Rg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 11:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r4CFbF4x022078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 12 May 2013 15:37:15 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4CFbEWY022145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 12 May 2013 15:37:16 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt114.oracle.com (abhmt114.oracle.com [141.146.116.66]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4CFbEbj006344; Sun, 12 May 2013 15:37:14 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 12 May 2013 08:37:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87obcgy8gw.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> thread-index: Ac5PHy+CTbefoviVTzmxdBYraiA7XAABU1qA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90668 Archived-At: > > Emacs has a FAQ: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-faq.html > > Yes, but I was wondering more if there were any guidelines how to > interact in this very group. Like how much context to provide, and > stuff like that. If you use some special notation to highlight > commands. Etc. Dunno. I probably should know, but I don't. I looked here, but it doesn't lead to any such guidelines, AFAICT: http://lists.gnu.org/. This is a help list, so pretty much anything you write will be OK. The preference is for plain text, not HTML mail. Other than that, trying to provide clear & complete info in your questions is helpful, as is referring to specific doc sections or specific recipes to reproduce behavior, when appropriate. Perhaps someone else can point you to some guidelines for the list somewhere. > > When you do `C-h k' and then hold the right Shift key and hit the > > Tab key, just what does it say wrt the key sequence you used > > (forgetting about the binding for now)? Does it think that you hit > > only TAB? > > Yes. > > > If so, that is what your keyboard is sending, I think. Does the > > right Shift key work for you otherwise, i.e., in general? > > Yes, in X and Iceweasel it works as I try to set it up, in w3m. What about in Emacs, besides w3m? If you start Emacs with `emacs -Q' and then check `C-h k' with Shift + Tab, do you see the same thing: no recognition of Shift? Check too whether `C-h k' does recognize that Shift was pressed and just says that Shift + Tab was translated to TAB. If so, that's different from not receiving the Shift modifier at all. E.g., for me, after `emacs -Q', `C-h k' tells me this for `S-TAB': ) is undefined ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I don't know how to test for it in the console? showkey (in the console) > shows both (but separately), if that's a clue. Someone else can perhaps help with that. > > What happens when you do the same thing, but you use the left Shift > > key? > > The same: TAB. > > > What happens if you try using `global-set-key', just to see? Same > > problem? > > Yes. > > > AFAIK, there is no way to distinguish the left and right Shift keys, > > and either should work fine with the code you tried. > > OK, so that's consistent, because neither works. > > > You can also try (kbd "") and (kbd ""). > > Those won't work either. But thanks for a gutsy effort. > > > Maybe someone else has an idea. > > Let's hope so :) > > FYI, you also emailed me your answer. I don't know if that is custom > (or even a slip) but anyway, it is not needed as I am happy to use > Gnus for Usenet. I hit `Reply All', because I didn't want to reply only to you. I could have edited the `To:' list to remove you and reply only to the list. But some people who submit questions do not read the list.