From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Cynthia Page Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: gui emacs from terminal Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <955206.27103.qm@web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-45431367-1279289082=:27103" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279297774 9135 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2010 16:29:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:29:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 16 18:29:33 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZnmx-0003rb-56 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:29:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39833 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZnQR-0002BG-8o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:06:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51236 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZlXL-0003Sa-SC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:05:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZlWt-0001Wz-Pq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.38.134]:21714) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZlWt-0001Wt-KU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:04:43 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 29451 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jul 2010 14:04:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1279289082; bh=0iT8LMMAhVVl9X2KWiZS9bSHTDrFG3soW05spjGVM4o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xvcsU4JqJFTFBOI9zm6rx+D/PdIiYtAiBvkN0Lp3fxcN7gAtrbk2kXIm3XtyaMNwoorSMWjMzRX7A1AUpxHjNC9Wy9Fho9CKErt0DAOenheLOSG2KMbxpaW4sm9pY8Grco/Demy9SuovWFGd0WytARPnvViJFkRcF/hu/7zQ0hc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dlMG0COHT3mAPVJ3SZ328a9WuZwTiis/OPiucAoYQNnq9cSqyMYxRDXpbr0snzDp4jn4442s0jzvZNxp4cglWi1yqLzg28W2nTqixRGq6r+NUvAExRuyM7b3Rdwv/98E71bYCXVG22Auo4seTDdsY6vlYzB0L2jIkyH/cSybBZE=; X-YMail-OSG: nLTs67gVM1nWFbuMdU2qm2iNgihEgidq3eLGukbat_dAc.B gG.LgCK.aP1ECtSG8WPrmhpbnGpI6GwLa_EPZkxpgQtAtvW5zWcpRmb7bAQq TpnTsXDhhAgKzDLlrdcWjGRoYmq6cvqjm..cJz5qt4Jr2jYy6qZBq4cPGj.d 15a93wB5y87mlkbdbmL.YE6CAuAik9b299Bss_5V53na.yxk34OKJ_DvztCM _DTqJm91R6SnF8IdhFJF3Xbwsh1cXPbAHUZjzW0gukcgOlH0VnZlYpgyYsBU EJoVkEjuCqCZn7mDWp6f.FH7swEesmf2LQHAM7Yon4Zni3ThwzDzlPkvm1Ok DA03DktAi_3tBtXG9K8dWlyeITZG7I3E- Original-Received: from [67.173.235.185] by web51003.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:04:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/420.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:04:10 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:74203 Archived-At: --0-45431367-1279289082=:27103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks everyone for your time and helpful information on this post. I am sorry to say that so many of your questions and comments are over my head, so please forgive me if I don't attempt an answer I found that I needed to invoke xterm when I ssh'd into the remote machine. I had a basic misunderstanding of the processes I needed to accomplish remote file editing. Originally I thought I was using the emacs that was installed on my machine, when I edited files on a server that I was ssh' ing to. Now I realize that when I ssh to a server, I am using a version of emacs that has been installed on that server. Also that I need X11 on my machine so that I can use xterm to run emacs application (from the server) in an xterm window and with some menu driven support. So the command is ssh -Xf username@host xterm. Thanks again! Cynthia ________________________________ From: Peter Dyballa To: Kevin Rodgers ; Cynthia Lee Page Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 1:30:21 AM Subject: Re: gui emacs from terminal Am 16.07.2010 um 03:02 schrieb Kevin Rodgers: > I always log the output for future reference e.g. > > ./configure --with-ns 2>&1 | tee configure.log You could also use M-x compile RET RET to create a *compilation* buffer in which the use of faces emphasises some text output to see more easily what is going on, potentially failing. Finally the *compilation* buffer needs to be saved and closed, in order to save it from being reused and overwritten by next compilation. Anyway, the Carbon, NS, and AppKit variants of GNU Emacs have no networking capability in a manner like an X client because Apple's windowing system is like that from MS not network aware, only local like the windowing systems from 30 years ago (on Xerox Star, Pet, Lisa, Atari, Amiga, Sun with SunView, Apollo with Presentation Manager). TRAMP in Emacs allows to edit files in remote file systems, and Apple's Terminal application would allow to launch any Carbon, NS, or AppKit variant of GNU Emacs without GUI inside it as /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -nw -- Greetings Pete Never be led astray onto the path of virtue --0-45431367-1279289082=:27103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks everyone for your time and helpful information on this post. I am sorry to say that so many of your questions and comments are over my head, so please forgive me if I don't attempt an answer

I found that I needed to invoke xterm when I ssh'd into the remote machine.

I had a basic misunderstanding of the processes I needed to accomplish remote file editing. Originally I thought I was using the emacs that was installed on my machine, when I edited files on a server that I was ssh' ing to. Now I realize that when I ssh to a server, I am using a version of emacs that has been installed on that server. Also that I need X11 on my machine so that I can use xterm to run emacs application (from the server) in an xterm window and with some menu driven support.

So the command is

ssh -Xf username@host xterm.

Thanks again!

Cynthia



From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE>
To: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com>; Cynthia Lee Page <Cynthia.Page@Colorado.EDU>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 1:30:21 AM
Subject: Re: gui emacs from terminal


Am 16.07.2010 um 03:02 schrieb Kevin Rodgers:

> I always log the output for future reference e.g.
>
>     ./configure --with-ns 2>&1 | tee configure.log


You could also use M-x compile RET <configure command> RET to create a *compilation* buffer in which the use of faces emphasises some text output to see more easily what is going on, potentially failing. Finally the *compilation* buffer needs to be saved and closed, in order to save it from being reused and overwritten by next compilation.


Anyway, the Carbon, NS, and AppKit variants of GNU Emacs have no networking capability in a manner like an X client because Apple's windowing system is like that from MS not network aware, only local like the windowing systems from 30 years ago (on Xerox Star, Pet, Lisa, Atari, Amiga, Sun with SunView, Apollo with Presentation Manager). TRAMP in Emacs allows to edit files in remote fi le systems, and Apple's Terminal application would allow to launch any Carbon, NS, or AppKit variant of GNU Emacs without GUI inside it as

    /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -nw

--
Greetings

  Pete

Never be led astray onto the path of virtue


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