From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: haziz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs starter kit - disabled menus Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <90790574-bbe3-4af0-a14f-7091775b9fff@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> References: Reply-To: gnu.emacs.help@googlegroups.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1306268321 15943 80.91.229.12 (24 May 2011 20:18:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:18:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 24 22:18:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QOy3o-0003qW-EA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 22:18:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49477 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QOy3n-0003BQ-U4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 16:18:35 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 40 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.68.15.22 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1304121456 1651 127.0.0.1 (29 Apr 2011 23:57:36 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:57:36 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=75.68.15.22; posting-account=HXrQZgoAAABJGIizvkuvFShjGEXLsiPB User-Agent: G2/1.0 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:186750 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81109 Archived-At: On Friday, April 29, 2011 3:00:43 PM UTC-4, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I am not sure if this is the most efficient way to do it, but if you co= mment > > out (one or two semicolons ;; ) the first three lines of Lisp code in t= he > > init.el file, this will restore the menus, buttons and scrollbars. >=20 > A simpler way might be to start with an empty .emacs file (no starter > kit or any such thing), check the Options menu since it contains the > most frequently asked configuration variables, and post questions in > this newsgroup when you don't know how to do something. >=20 >=20 > Stefan I agree to some extent, but that would basically disable the "Emacs Starter= Kit" completely since it depends on loading a few packages through the ini= t.el file and other Lisp files in the .emacs.d directory. The "Emacs Starte= r Kit" is heavily oriented towards dynamic languages e.g. ruby and I person= ally did not find it very useful, however if he wants to explore it further= he can leave the init.el file intact and just comment out (or erase) the t= hree offending lines of code, which are: (if (fboundp 'menu-bar-mode) (menu-bar-mode -1)) (if (fboundp 'tool-bar-mode) (tool-bar-mode -1)) (if (fboundp 'scroll-bar-mode) (scroll-bar-mode -1)) This would enable him to restore the menus, buttons and scrollbars and stil= l utilize the Emacs Starter Kit if he so chooses. I personally did not find= it very useful but most of my use of emacs is in developing in C rather th= an dynamic languages and I also did not appreciate some of the defaults sel= ected by Phil Hagelberg (technomancy) the original poster of the Starter Ki= t on Github. BTW if you place a separate .emacs file in your home folder this would also= automatically disable any references to the .emacs.d directory and the ini= t.el file contained within also effectively disabling the Starter Kit compl= etely. It really depends on whether you want to check out the "Emacs Starte= r Kit" at all or not. Most of my references to "dot" files and directories = of course assumes you are working on a Unix system including Linux or Mac O= S X. The names may start differently on a Windows system.