From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: problem with mule-utf-8 ? Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 22:17:48 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <9003-Sat06Sep2003221748+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <87n0dirmib.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1062876035 10459 80.91.224.253 (6 Sep 2003 19:20:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 19:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 06 21:20:33 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19vibp-00022k-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 21:20:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19viaQ-0007nu-MO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:19:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19via9-0007nb-DD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 19via7-0007nL-Pw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:18:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 19via7-0007lS-EW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretski (pns03-202-23.inter.net.il [80.230.202.23]) by legolas.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id AGH64908; Sat, 6 Sep 2003 22:18:41 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <87n0dirmib.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> (message from Pascal Bourguignon on 06 Sep 2003 16:59:24 +0200) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:12332 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:12332 > From: Pascal Bourguignon > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help > Date: 06 Sep 2003 16:59:24 +0200 > > So, what's the matter? I thought that unicode inclued all the > characters, and that utf-8 was able to transcribe all unicode > character, or not? > > Of course, I insist and save it with utf-8 encoding, then when I load > this utf-8 file later, I get rectangle frames instead of katakana... In what version of Emacs? All released versions of Emacs support only part of the BMP. Specifically, these ranges of Unicode codepoints are supported: 0100..33ff e000..ffff If katakana characters are not in these ranges, you cannot have them in unicode. The CVS version of Emacs can (I think) convert katakana to Unicode when encoding and decoding text. I also think you can have this with released versions if you install ucs-tables (look on gnu.emacs.sources).