From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hikaru Ichijyo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: launch a program in an arbitrary frame Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 18:32:43 -0500 Organization: UN Spacy Message-ID: <8xx1tg5dotg.fsf@village.keycorner.org> References: <8xxwpxyducd.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxr3o5ea34.fsf@village.keycorner.org> <8xxegk5dt1t.fsf@village.keycorner.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437262519 14218 80.91.229.3 (18 Jul 2015 23:35:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:35:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 01:35:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGbdX-0002Wn-Em for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 01:35:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50094 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGbdW-0005eu-EC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:35:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news.astraweb.com!border6.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XCe+RV+D/ShtR5+l9nA6CPXb16k= Original-Lines: 30 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85229271.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=[^@X^eg8DWkK; GKPh8BJfdL?0kYOcDh@jAMWRU7UBfQc>3<:Wm\C]QoX]J^06@\k1`miXkheEkhKj=H7fHKEgI?mB7Ce?EnIe_n0YFEi5[?Ngb Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:213539 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:105825 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > 20M of tarballed code is nothing in this day and age. > It doesn't matter. What matters is what the code is, > and what program it compiles into, and what that > program does. If the program is brilliant and does > something new (or something old in a better way) it > might as well be 100M for all I care (and you > shouldn't, either). > > The language issue is equally irrelevant (in all but > the extreme cases). Emacs is in C and Lisp, which I prefer > to C++ (unless the problem lends itself to > OO/modeling, in which case I prefer C++ to C). > Nonetheless, the expert C++ programmer with > a creative/resourceful mind can do wonders with 20M. > It is not the language, or the size of the tarball, > that matters! Well, for security, the size of it sort of does matter. When we start talking about web browsers, we're talking about code in a hostile environment. The big browsers have gotten themselves into a situation where they are now so big that no one could possibly audit them. I don't want a browser like that to be a bundled part of Emacs. -- He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. --Thomas Paine