From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 13:04:42 +0000 Message-ID: <8ed9b435029cc067e204@heytings.org> References: <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692@mail.yahoo.com> <87r1lqyiyk.fsf@yandex.com> <87czx94w3b.fsf@mbork.pl> <555c4ea0-dc93-0c84-b25e-395020809941@yandex.ru> <8ed9b4350244e6ebf6f6@heytings.org> <36a33101-64fd-a880-f47e-393d1318517d@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1843"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 14:05:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Shb-0000O0-Rl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 14:05:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43872 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9Sha-0008NJ-U4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 08:05:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9ShC-0008MX-To for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 08:04:46 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:43380) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9ShA-0001rR-8P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 08:04:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1612875882; bh=Rma70C/LeocQePx1cpdUUE3VkTgTNs0EM7SSDe+lyP0=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=tUnNjmYAcHyKOrHMu89tQvywCrkgfB2+tmcdvWJ1gYp2q3TgoXEikd1yQ/CGpfmaj 9+Y6+9NpQdEGNo5VJiXC0TPFRP4+vBhrJ7fkSH/1gob7zuqL4wt6KKY1SJH6SADssp hBbFUCIKUHsD0eS1gG0STVrdmu7OK5BxoTpOijuvTC7c4slez52ZIZQ9F8ILo1yDoV 8IDCXNim3hBfEmdAN/YZUVcyHyuL/cQ/RxjofX57HeCPonpaQKWttwMgK2KF8iC2r5 LVPRlPvG8CHTdwKUW5YcpYyXgLmWaviGxTGohYK+rO3M1etrWbfW6xj+6+69Swi9PY 6N7vVyt5tamFw== In-Reply-To: <36a33101-64fd-a880-f47e-393d1318517d@yandex.ru> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127695 Archived-At: > > That still requires extra research on the part of the user. As well as > subsequent adaptation. > I fear everything requires adaptation in Emacs ;-) >> Moreover the bindings for "undo" are not more exotic than those of copy >> (M-w), cut (C-w) and paste (C-y). > > True, even though it is a bit more exotic (the advertised binding is a > whole key sequence rather than a plain modifier+key). > If you think this is a problem, I would suggest to change the advertised binding to "C-/" instead of "C-x u".