From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: not good proposal: "C-z " reserved for users Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 09:13:13 +0000 Message-ID: <8ed9b435026a7f251086@heytings.org> References: <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1973673328.2493716.1612740554692@mail.yahoo.com> <83tuqnkzff.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13233"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 10:26:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9PHz-0003MU-6r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 10:26:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52682 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9PHy-0005Wc-8q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 04:26:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9P5D-0000uB-Cj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 04:13:19 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:43106) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9P5A-0004lq-5A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 04:13:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1612861994; bh=sLFeJ4DelAAb2cEb3oR1i59wAda1qqwQPl6xv9KguVo=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=gpP5xU78tyoPxToipM3zKV59pUSRRAEzx24HqfT2WQ/CoOkGycL4C/69hryk25dAo czeuCs0vmQrDJmDQQJoOqL4qsuUUueH8dOWP0/0iNqogCUnACScqtN4mVcl/CLxK5a gIDQZE1YXOBa3dwSMDZJMH84xBp3T51c0z/KBuW0FbZn/8w/5u7jgpqMeNvHKPW77U gwm5z52wmleTOL6RpqnCv1JPR43POFYbjsiDY2NZ7YA+gisqEFyI8LFOkwSuC04neP N3Mb6Ff687tUw4iZZ+65rIcX0LNIhsgqNPXHvVy41c8gk3z40Il6z+3gSXtqyCoAuu VvTzfxPNkLCDw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:127688 Archived-At: > > Emacs is used on console by millions of people. Console itself defines > C-z as suspend of the job, so C-z is always expecte to suspend the job > for many programs, not only Emacs. > > [...] > > Those are common job control commands: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_control_%28Unix%29#Commands > As you see on that page, C-c also has a standard meaning, which Emacs doesn't follow. Besides, the proposal binds "C-z C-z" to "frame-suspend".