From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: rustom Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Do we need a "Stevens" book? Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <8900246b-7ee7-4149-88a5-9f036c4f3edc@l25g2000prn.googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291854774 24406 80.91.229.12 (9 Dec 2010 00:32:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 00:32:54 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 09 01:32:50 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQURG-0006E1-1N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 01:32:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40106 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQURF-0000JD-DX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:32:49 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!l25g2000prn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 116.73.35.230 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1280397042 7302 127.0.0.1 (29 Jul 2010 09:50:42 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: l25g2000prn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=116.73.35.230; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.11) Gecko/20100701 Firefox/3.5.11,gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:180174 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:76302 Archived-At: On Jul 29, 11:40=A0am, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > () Olwe Melwasul > () Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:42:14 -0500 > > =A0 =A0Okay, I can Google [...] > > Why does the search start with Google (and continue with other > downstream, non-terminating, whirlpool-shaped, out of date, referenda)? > Why not go to the source? =A0The Emacs Lisp manual, the Emacs Lisp code, > the Emacs customization facility, the Emacs *scratch* buffer, the Emacs! Because google searches the world wide web faster and better (usually) than me searching my info dir Unfortunately 'usually' is not 'always' -- hence Olwe's wish is valid > > =A0 =A0Personally I've been admiring Emacs from afar for quite some time. > > Pirsig sez: Quality is the moment of perception. > Afar dilutes this. =A0Stop it. My comint.el reads at 3538 lines. Also a $ find ~/local/share/emacs/23.1/lisp -name '*.el.gz' | xargs zcat | wc -l returns 1076048 Spelt out, thats a million lines of elisp only in the default emacs install Now what exactly were you saying?