From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Malte Spiess Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: special keyboard, ctrl below spacebar Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:30:57 +0100 Organization: Arcor Message-ID: <87zmb22k8u.fsf@trick.ulm.malte.spiess> References: <1162858694.499528.250520@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <87u01behhl.fsf@trick.ulm.malte.spiess> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1162989657 31065 80.91.229.2 (8 Nov 2006 12:40:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 08 13:40:55 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhmjO-0004On-FC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:40:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GhmjO-0008Sq-0y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:40:38 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.ision.net!newsfeed2.easynews.net!ision!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7iHVKzXJuRFSzqUCrF9lrsdZ95Y= Original-Lines: 42 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 08 Nov 2006 13:30:51 CET Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 48d882b2.newsspool1.arcor-online.net Original-X-Trace: DXC==?V; _; ; U0Jg^Y=RbYBPl4`ic==]BZ:afn4Fo<]lROoRa^YC2XCjHcbiLRLT\9>>M8bjQd8 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:38586 Archived-At: Joe Fineman writes: > Malte Spiess writes: > >> "Florian Kaufmann" writes: > >>> Since I moved Ctrl to Caps Lock on my 'US windows' keyboard, I am >>> wondering how I still could improve accessibility to modifier keys >>> as ctrl, meta, shift (, hyper, super). I thought it would be great >>> to have 2 of these left and right to the middle below the space >>> bar. With the left pinkie and the two thumbs the modifiers would be >>> reachable very easy, and while pressing any of these modifiers you >>> still could reach easily almost any other key with the other >>> fingers. A similar idea would also be to make the space bar much >>> shorter, and place the two new keys at the side of the now shorter >>> space bar. The new keys would be reachable more easily than alt is >>> now beside the long space bar. Now I wonder if such keyboards >>> already exist, or if somebody knows how I could alter an existing >>> keyboard and make the two additional keys myself. I googled a bit, >>> but didn't found anything. Any ideas? >> >> I use a Contoured keyboard by Kinesis: >> http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/ > > So do I. It puts Ctrl & Alt handy to the thumbs, and they are next to > each other, so you can even do Ctrl-Alt with one thumb. The space key > is no longer a bar, but is where the right thumb lives. > > However, it is absurdly expensive -- at a guess, because it is > marketed as a remedy for carpal tunnel syndrome, so it gets paid for > largely out of insurance. Yeah, but if you suffer for years your're really happy for anything to ease you pain. :-( An alternative may be this one, looks alike, but it costs way more (about 2-3 times as expansive): http://www.maltron.com/maltron-kbd-etype-intro.html Greetings Malte