From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pascal Bourguignon Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:30:34 +0200 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <87zm1lahn9.fsf@voyager.informatimago.com> References: <46A49912.9030203@luxdo.jp> <7056BAE9-002B-46B7-A60A-9EDE375392EE@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> <18085.18857.593591.502885@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <1185263310.787881.72970@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <36CC139D-16DC-4D8E-B69A-D16BD3CE385E@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> <46A616A2.8040504@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185295317 10619 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2007 16:41:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:41:57 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 24 18:41:56 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDNSK-0003kb-Ne for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:41:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDNSK-000120-8V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:41:52 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Trace: individual.net OKY4YIBnt4ZlywfWHGZvTgVGBl5uuNc2Ch9KC0R603NKug0LaH Cancel-Lock: sha1:hHDj+uQqgYUZPN4U5cVLnFAYB+I= sha1:NSx7LrNh25EOOpsBkn0z7zRkFio= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en X-Disabled: X-No-Archive: no User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.94 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:150407 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:45987 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > On 25 juil. 07, at 00:11, Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > >> Some comments: >> >> * (interactive commands) I believe you agree with me that they >> should not be translated. Translating them would IMO lead to >> confusion. > > Sure, in the current state of affairs. But in the end, the command > names are just arbitrary strings and sometimes have very little to do > with English, as seems to suggest Pascal Bourguignon. > > I am sure if a Japanese developer created code with romaji command > names you'd see what I mean :) Theorically, as I'm able to take some (small) compiled program and reverse engineer it to some meaningful source form. But this is not an efficient process. That's why all my employers, in all the countries they're located (4 so far, with 4 different languages) asked me to write the code, the comments and documentation in English. In my last job, considering only programmers, we were 6 different nationalities, with 5 different native languages. So in my opinion, now is the worst time to involve oneself in such a project. When it will be completed either everybody will speak English, or there will be AI to do the translation for us. -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ IMPORTANT NOTICE TO PURCHASERS: The entire physical universe, including this product, may one day collapse back into an infinitesimally small space. Should another universe subsequently re-emerge, the existence of this product in that universe cannot be guaranteed.