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From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 'length' function for lists and cons cells?
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:52:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zjxunmfj.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.22706.1364052941.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> > So if both, true lists and cons cells, are processed in a... 
>> 
>> proper-lists, not true lists.  
>> They all are true lists, ie. cons cells or nil.
>
> Maybe for some people.  For others, "true list" and "proper list" mean the same
> thing.  FWIW, Emacs itself calls such a beast a "true list".

Even emacs itself calls such beasts true lists:

(typep '()                   'list) --> t
(typep '(1)                  'list) --> t
(typep '(1 . #1=(2 3 . #1#)) 'list) --> t
(typep '(1 . 2)              'list) --> t



>>From (elisp) `Cons Cells':
>
>   Also by convention, the CDR of the last cons cell in a
>   list is `nil'.  We call such a `nil'-terminated structure
>   a "true list".  

No, f[…] manual, you're dumbing down the language, which is
patronizing and error inducing.


-- 
__Pascal Bourguignon__                     http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-23 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.22586.1363890109.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-03-21 20:49 ` 'length' function for lists and cons cells? Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-22  2:38   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-03-22  7:27     ` Mark Skilbeck
2013-03-22  9:57       ` Thorsten Jolitz
     [not found]       ` <mailman.22632.1363946271.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-03-23 12:19         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-23 15:35           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]           ` <mailman.22706.1364052941.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-03-23 15:52             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2013-03-24  5:20               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]   ` <mailman.22618.1363919920.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-03-22  7:45     ` Barry Margolin
2013-03-23 11:31     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-21 18:21 Thorsten Jolitz
2013-03-21 20:02 ` Stephen Berman
2013-03-21 21:58   ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-03-21 22:05     ` Drew Adams
     [not found]   ` <mailman.22591.1363903134.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-03-23 11:24     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-21 20:10 ` Drew Adams
2013-03-21 22:09   ` Thorsten Jolitz
     [not found] ` <mailman.22588.1363896620.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-03-25 15:24   ` duthen.cnv
2013-03-25 20:02     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon

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