* pdf viewer
@ 2018-10-06 9:02 Kamil Jońca
2018-10-06 9:39 ` Teemu Likonen
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From: Kamil Jońca @ 2018-10-06 9:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal viewer.
But I want to keep old behavior - open them with xpdf/evince
How can I do it? I google some but without success.
KJ
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* Re: pdf viewer
2018-10-06 9:02 pdf viewer Kamil Jońca
@ 2018-10-06 9:39 ` Teemu Likonen
2018-10-06 10:53 ` Garreau, Alexandre
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From: Teemu Likonen @ 2018-10-06 9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kamil Jońca; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
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Kamil Jońca [2018-10-06 11:02:54+02] wrote:
> For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal viewer. But I
> want to keep old behavior - open them with xpdf/evince How can I do
> it?
You can use mailcap-user-mime-data variable to override the (generated)
defaults in mailcap-mime-data:
(setq mailcap-user-mime-data
'(((type . "application/pdf")
(viewer . "evince %s"))))
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* Re: pdf viewer
2018-10-06 9:39 ` Teemu Likonen
@ 2018-10-06 10:53 ` Garreau, Alexandre
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From: Garreau, Alexandre @ 2018-10-06 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Teemu Likonen; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Kamil Jońca
On 2018-10-06 at 12:39, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> Kamil Jońca [2018-10-06 11:02:54+02] wrote:
>
>> For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal viewer. But I
>> want to keep old behavior - open them with xpdf/evince How can I do
>> it?
>
> You can use mailcap-user-mime-data variable to override the (generated)
> defaults in mailcap-mime-data:
>
> (setq mailcap-user-mime-data
> '(((type . "application/pdf")
> (viewer . "evince %s"))))
My emacs uses its internal viewer doc view, and yet I see this in my
predefined (I didn’t touch it myself) mailcap-user-mime-data:
#+BEGIN_SRC elisp
("pdf"
(viewer . "okular '%s'")
(type . "application/pdf")
(test "test" "\"$DISPLAY\"" "!=" "\"\"")
("nametemplate" . "%s.pdf"))
#+END_SRC
Also mine is huge, wouldn’t what you proposed erase it all? Wouldn’t
`add-to-list' be more appropriated?
#+BEGIN_SRC elisp
(add-to-list 'mailcap-user-mime-data
'((type . "application/pdf")
(viewer . "evince %s")))
#+END_SRC
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* Re: pdf viewer
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@ 2018-10-06 11:14 ` Kamil Jońca
2018-10-06 11:29 ` Garreau, Alexandre
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From: Kamil Jońca @ 2018-10-06 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
"Garreau, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu> writes:
> On 2018-10-06 at 12:39, Teemu Likonen wrote:
>> Kamil Jońca [2018-10-06 11:02:54+02] wrote:
>>
>>> For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal viewer. But I
>>> want to keep old behavior - open them with xpdf/evince How can I do
>>> it?
>>
>> You can use mailcap-user-mime-data variable to override the (generated)
>> defaults in mailcap-mime-data:
>>
>> (setq mailcap-user-mime-data
>> '(((type . "application/pdf")
>> (viewer . "evince %s"))))
>
> My emacs uses its internal viewer doc view, and yet I see this in my
> predefined (I didn’t touch it myself) mailcap-user-mime-data:
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC elisp
> ("pdf"
> (viewer . "okular '%s'")
> (type . "application/pdf")
> (test "test" "\"$DISPLAY\"" "!=" "\"\"")
> ("nametemplate" . "%s.pdf"))
> #+END_SRC
>
Are you sure you speak about mailcap-user-mime-data, not
mailcap-mime-data?
I have huge mailcap-mime-data, but mailcap-user-mime-data was
empty/undefined.
KJ
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A lie in time saves nine.
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* Re: pdf viewer
2018-10-06 11:14 ` Kamil Jońca
@ 2018-10-06 11:29 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-06 13:22 ` Colin Baxter
2018-10-07 0:12 ` Ben Bacarisse
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From: Garreau, Alexandre @ 2018-10-06 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kamil Jońca; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
On 2018-10-06 at 13:14, Kamil Jońca wrote:
> Are you sure you speak about mailcap-user-mime-data, not
> mailcap-mime-data?
>
> I have huge mailcap-mime-data, but mailcap-user-mime-data was
> empty/undefined.
You are indeed right, I confused both: as it was undefined C-h v didn’t
worked, and I didn’t realize auto-completion did show me another
variable. Sorry.
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* Re: pdf viewer
2018-10-06 11:14 ` Kamil Jońca
2018-10-06 11:29 ` Garreau, Alexandre
@ 2018-10-06 13:22 ` Colin Baxter
2018-10-07 0:12 ` Ben Bacarisse
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From: Colin Baxter @ 2018-10-06 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kamil Jońca; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
>>>>> Kamil Jońca <kjonca@poczta.onet.pl> writes:
> "Garreau, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu> writes:
>> On 2018-10-06 at 12:39, Teemu Likonen wrote:
>>> Kamil Jońca [2018-10-06 11:02:54+02] wrote:
>>>
>>>> For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal
>>>> viewer. But I want to keep old behavior - open them with
>>>> xpdf/evince How can I do it?
>>>
>>> You can use mailcap-user-mime-data variable to override the
>>> (generated) defaults in mailcap-mime-data:
>>>
>>> (setq mailcap-user-mime-data '(((type . "application/pdf")
>>> (viewer . "evince %s"))))
>>
>> My emacs uses its internal viewer doc view, and yet I see this in
>> my predefined (I didn’t touch it myself) mailcap-user-mime-data:
>>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC elisp ("pdf" (viewer . "okular '%s'") (type
>> . "application/pdf") (test "test" "\"$DISPLAY\"" "!=" "\"\"")
>> ("nametemplate" . "%s.pdf")) #+END_SRC
>>
> Are you sure you speak about mailcap-user-mime-data, not
> mailcap-mime-data?
> I have huge mailcap-mime-data, but mailcap-user-mime-data was
> empty/undefined. KJ
> -- http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html A lie in time
> saves nine.
You can also use a hook. This works for me:
(add-hook 'org-mode-hook
'(lambda ()
(delete '("\\.pdf\\'" . default) org-file-apps)
(add-to-list 'org-file-apps '("\\.pdf\\'" . "xpdf %s"))))
Best wishes,
Colin Baxter
m43cap@yandex.com
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* Re: pdf viewer
2018-10-06 11:14 ` Kamil Jońca
2018-10-06 11:29 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-06 13:22 ` Colin Baxter
@ 2018-10-07 0:12 ` Ben Bacarisse
2018-10-07 12:11 ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: Ben Bacarisse @ 2018-10-07 0:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
kjonca@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
> "Garreau, Alexandre" <galex-713@galex-713.eu> writes:
>
>> On 2018-10-06 at 12:39, Teemu Likonen wrote:
>>> Kamil Jońca [2018-10-06 11:02:54+02] wrote:
>>>
>>>> For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal viewer. But I
>>>> want to keep old behavior - open them with xpdf/evince How can I do
>>>> it?
>>>
>>> You can use mailcap-user-mime-data variable to override the (generated)
>>> defaults in mailcap-mime-data:
>>>
>>> (setq mailcap-user-mime-data
>>> '(((type . "application/pdf")
>>> (viewer . "evince %s"))))
>>
>> My emacs uses its internal viewer doc view, and yet I see this in my
>> predefined (I didn’t touch it myself) mailcap-user-mime-data:
>>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC elisp
>> ("pdf"
>> (viewer . "okular '%s'")
>> (type . "application/pdf")
>> (test "test" "\"$DISPLAY\"" "!=" "\"\"")
>> ("nametemplate" . "%s.pdf"))
>> #+END_SRC
>>
> Are you sure you speak about mailcap-user-mime-data, not
> mailcap-mime-data?
Part of the trouble is that mailcap.el defines a sort function that
favours symbols over strings. As a result, no matter what viewer
command you have, 'doc-view-mode will win out.
I have used a temporary fix which is to have
(require 'mailcap)
(setq mailcap-mime-data nil)
(mailcap-parse-mailcaps nil t)
in .emacs. This is a crude fix, but it works for the time being.
I started a thread about this a few days ago in comp.emacs and there
have been some other ideas along the line of code to pickout the
'doc-view-mode a-list entries.
--
Ben.
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* Re: pdf viewer
2018-10-07 0:12 ` Ben Bacarisse
@ 2018-10-07 12:11 ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2018-10-07 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ben Bacarisse; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
> Part of the trouble is that mailcap.el defines a sort function that
> favours symbols over strings. As a result, no matter what viewer
> command you have, 'doc-view-mode will win out.
If this is true, we should have a bug report about this problem.
There had been "bug#23184: 25.0.92; User-friendly way to override
doc-view-mode as MIME viewer", but it seems you say that didn't solve
the problem for you.
I also found commit 7e47d44da4b54c518c5e09b4f3d58dafdd43033d "Prefer
settings from ~/.mailcap over system and Emacs settings" from Lars from
six months ago, dunno if it is relevant.
Michael.
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* Re: pdf viewer
2018-10-06 9:02 pdf viewer Kamil Jońca
2018-10-06 9:39 ` Teemu Likonen
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@ 2018-10-06 14:57 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2018-10-06 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kamil Jońca; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
On 2018-10-06, at 11:02, Kamil Jońca <kjonca@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
> For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal viewer.
> But I want to keep old behavior - open them with xpdf/evince
> How can I do it? I google some but without success.
While I understand you wanting not to use doc-view-mode, did you try
pdf-tools? It replaced xpdf/evince for me almost completely.
Hth,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
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* Re: pdf viewer
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@ 2018-10-06 16:26 ` Kamil Jońca
2018-10-06 17:38 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Kamil Jońca @ 2018-10-06 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
> On 2018-10-06, at 11:02, Kamil Jońca <kjonca@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
>
>> For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal viewer.
>> But I want to keep old behavior - open them with xpdf/evince
>> How can I do it? I google some but without success.
>
> While I understand you wanting not to use doc-view-mode, did you try
> pdf-tools? It replaced xpdf/evince for me almost completely.
Whatever. Primarily I want made emacs start external viever by default
:)
KJ
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QOTD:
Talent does what it can, genius what it must.
I do what I get paid to do.
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* Re: pdf viewer
2018-10-06 16:26 ` Kamil Jońca
@ 2018-10-06 17:38 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2018-10-06 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kamil Jońca; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
On 2018-10-06, at 18:26, Kamil Jońca <kjonca@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
>
>> On 2018-10-06, at 11:02, Kamil Jońca <kjonca@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> For some time emacs view pdf files with its internal viewer.
>>> But I want to keep old behavior - open them with xpdf/evince
>>> How can I do it? I google some but without success.
>>
>> While I understand you wanting not to use doc-view-mode, did you try
>> pdf-tools? It replaced xpdf/evince for me almost completely.
>
> Whatever. Primarily I want made emacs start external viever by default
The point is, pdf-tools works within Emacs. :)
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
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