From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 18:05:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87zhnnr9d8.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <46f308ff-5a70-8ccc-310b-48167088ff5a@yandex.ru> <87woirsvdb.fsf@telefonica.net> <87sgtfsswd.fsf@telefonica.net> <76f6370c-e8b7-bc59-634c-c48ea7af7f70@yandex.ru> <87lfz7sqb9.fsf@telefonica.net> <874l5vsokw.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="3421"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 15 18:06:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQwPy-0000bi-Iy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 18:06:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39311 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQwPx-0000Js-H2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 12:06:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQwPe-0000ID-Aa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 12:05:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQwPd-0004Hw-Cg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 12:05:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=60048 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQwPd-0004FX-58 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 12:05:49 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQwPZ-0018IX-D2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 18:05:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:8EdMlz8TvWEwKKbg5GZbZW0kYtA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120398 Archived-At: Óscar Fuentes writes: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> On 15.05.2019 18:14, Óscar Fuentes wrote: >> >>>> Pretty much what you suggested. Remove the binding and mention that in >>>> NEWS, together with the existing alternative. >>> >>> You forgot to mention how removing C-c C-c would help CC-Mode users. >> >> They, in particular, won't become confused when they try 'C-c C-c' in >> a different major mode, and it either fails to work, or does something >> unexpected to them. > > AFAIK, modes where C-c C-c does something do not support the concept of > commenting regions. elisp-mode, for instance. That was half-baked. An hypothetical C/C++ hacker is unlikely to try C-c C-c for commenting-out a region on an interactive mode because he will first learn that that binding is using for sending the code to the subprocess and, furthermore, commenting-out regions is not something that one would do as one of his first operations when one starts using those modes.