From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Fwd: How do I go about debugging my Elisp code? Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 11:15:35 +0100 Message-ID: <87zgnxjo2d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87czku1hon.fsf@gnu.org> <878rvi1d6j.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnj2f8oi.fsf@mbork.pl> <87a6fyw0kh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21936"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.7.5; emacs 29.0.50 Cc: Davin Pearson , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 15 11:24:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gED-0005Vj-HF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 11:24:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47914 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gEB-00057J-JD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:24:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gCn-000562-1X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:22:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=56084 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gCl-0003Co-Qm; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:22:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:In-reply-to:Date:Subject:To:From: References; bh=gGdijVo4sq757sS6Rvl7OL8EW3G5zlbLmkr5Q3JtY7k=; b=qadDHDsQZ/ZcGK Re3WR1BYF/7mlZ5urrQ5stGeqPtHj+WgLnyt0yWXxPO3pKBRCfqT0sL++4QBpmW3lRJC4a5Lu59za D6+8RcbOE7l+SlE4zZd0RYsn8b/xgJnAltozzRnRQyxgMzWLpVLLnt7H9/ECPdv417F4SlDJ7PS5d 86dkQxqXXDsTYfAnJ8AtC0imdoUCuZULQrwQsrsAWLpGooUl1fHsPbJx7YmOIRrS7EQxUuPkPcWW0 PMg1NPzDjfKFgoc4OYu0UWpRb6kHAyzHQlmFCuf0Vvm5MwrvMXz/KmysH2wr8iysHcNd7SPG0JpKn c2AE63NWm1wVxW4pmZCQ==; Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]:34937) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8gCl-0006o9-9c; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:22:40 -0500 Original-Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AD427C0054; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:22:38 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:22:38 -0500 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddrtdejgdduhecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpehffgfhvffuffgjkfggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomhepvfgrshhsihhl ohcujfhorhhnuceothhsughhsehgnhhurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeektd eugffgtefghefhffeuieevvdeuuefgudejhfefudeliefhheelvdegudfhfeenucffohhm rghinhepshhtrggtkhgvgigthhgrnhhgvgdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpe dtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehthhhorhhnodhmvghsmhhtphgruhhthhhp vghrshhonhgrlhhithihqdekieejfeekjeekgedqieefhedvleekqdhtshguhheppehgnh hurdhorhhgsehfrghsthhmrghilhdrfhhm X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 05:22:37 -0500 (EST) In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135321 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: >> > CC BY-SA 4.0 is one-way compatible with the GNU GPL version 3: this >> > means you may license your modified versions of CC BY-SA 4.0 >> > materials under GNU GPL version 3, but you may not relicense GPL 3 >> > licensed works under CC BY-SA 4.0. >> >> Aren't they doing exactly the latter when allowing elisp code to be >> posted? > > That question I don't get. > >> According to your argument, every elisp code is a modification of >> emacs itself and therefore must have the same license (or at least >> equivalent terms) as emacs. > > Yes. My understanding is that CC BY-SA 4.0 license is compatible to > GPL 3+ and thus all contributions on Emacs StackExchange are > compatible to Emacs license, thus fine in that regard. You said one-way compatible above, i.e., it is ok for me to use CC BY-SA 4.0 code snippets from SO in my GPL3+ package but according to your argument, when I post some elisp code on emacs.stackexchange.com, that code is automatically GPL+ (because you say every elisp code is a modification of emacs itself), yet they redistribute it as CC BY-SA 4.0 which would be an infringement. Or is that not what one-way compatible means? Bye, Tassilo