From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs help from terminal Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 09:09:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87zgidozil.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <877d5jgxa8.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87o7yv1fbs.fsf@web.de> <87pmjaxm40.fsf@web.de> <87a6ae8bnw.fsf@dataswamp.org> <871qvqypvy.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7996"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:3ApQa7olaBrGxxVBvqS3GtPZ2F4= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 09:12:42 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o1jgH-0001sI-KF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 09:12:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41730 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1jgE-00050z-TG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 03:12:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1jdZ-00050q-1C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 03:09:53 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:42048) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1jdX-0007RY-Dv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 03:09:52 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o1jdV-0008z5-Bi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 09:09:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137876 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: > When process is suspended, it is paused. Emacs does nothing > in background, it has stopped. Its execution has stopped. > If there are processes in Emacs they have been paused. But I don't see why one would want to do that. It's not how anything works these days, or for quite some time actually ... > This is totally different to invoking a program from within > Emacs or from shell within Emacs. I also do not see how > suspending process is related to invoking shell in Emacs. But no one is really doing that manually _at all_ anymore is what I'm saying. > You maybe think that the only use of suspending Emacs is to > run some other command in shell. Certainly one can do that. > But suspending stops the Emacs process, it does not let it > run. There may be quite different reasons for stopping > a process. ... > And one may have multiple Emacs processes stopped or > resumed, and running in the shell in the same > time [...] :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal