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[93.33.185.225]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r17-20020aa7cfd1000000b0043ba7df7a42sm985955edy.26.2022.08.18.04.31.49 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:31:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: jwvedxe9u2p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62e; envelope-from=alessandro.bertulli96@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x62e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138916 Archived-At: > more importantly I can do `C-x 5 2` to see several pages at the same > time (I very often keep a frame/window displaying the bibliography, > but other times I use that to display a figure while I read the > corresponding description from another page, or to display several > figures next to each other, ...) This is a very good idea, thanks! I find that sometimes, using my DE tab switching (alt+tab on GNOME) is quicker than changing Emacs buffer, so that may be a good tip. > I tried Sioyek and it's nice, but not sufficiently nicer to make me > change :-) I'm quite conflicted about it :-) On one hand, it is specifically designed for academics, and it works decently well; on the other, it has Vim-style keybindings (that may overridden tho), and as I was saying it isn't always able to reconstruct the hyperlinks if the pdf is old. But again, I'm starting to suspect this is a limitation intrinsic to the quality of the pdf, and that there isn't a magical tool to perform so accurate OCR. However, if any one has comments or suggestions about this, they're welcome. > Have you tried `pdf-tools`? In fact, I have, but just barely. Until now, I sticked to Sioyek since I needed to read almost exclusively old papers. But I'm willing to explore it further. Alessandro