From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Turn OFF default TRAMP in Emacs 22.x, need VMS access Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:11:12 -0500 Organization: Bell Sympatico Message-ID: <87y81enpqn.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> References: <1137434526.766655.198770@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137558475 12201 80.91.229.2 (18 Jan 2006 04:27:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 18 05:27:54 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ez4vI-0001rv-2V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:27:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ez4xe-00013i-Tw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:30:18 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!207.35.177.252!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LEdOSyAU0j+uLpsKtCrVN/KVXTo= Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.71.26.73 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca Original-X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1137557472 67.71.26.73 (Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:11:12 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:11:12 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:137091 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:32712 Archived-At: > I have been playing around with newer releases of Emacs, 22.0.50 > recently. In all cases they have installed TRAMP in lieu of ANGE-FTP. Huh? Emacs-22 comes with both ange-ftp and Tramp, both active by default. > So I want to use ANGE-FTP with Emacs 22.x. Alas, setting the tramp > default method, ala (setq tramp-default-method "ftp"), still leaves > TRAMP in the path being difficult. What does "leaves TRAMP in the path being difficult" mean? The setq you show should allow you to use ange-ftp just as before. If it doesn't, it's a bug which you should report. It does go "through" Tramp, indeed, but there should be no visible slowdown or change of behavior. > I want to get rid of it. Completely. Other than out of irritation, why would you want to do that? Stefan